For all you fire/vanilla experts, I need help identifying these two!

Well like the title says, I'm not 100% on what these two little guys are, they have both shed and changed drastically since they hatched. The pairing was vanilla x fire.

This first one I'm almost positive is a vanilla, imo his pattern looks just like his father.
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...3/IMG_1123.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...3/IMG_1124.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...3/IMG_1125.jpg

This second one is giving me the trouble, at first I was thinking vanilla, now that the blushing has set in and I look at the mother, I'm thinking fire
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...3/IMG_1126.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...3/IMG_1127.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...3/IMG_1128.jpg

Here's both of them together, possible fire is on the bottom
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...60173/both.jpg

and finally the parents
Dad
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...3/IMG_1131.jpg
Mom
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...3/IMG_1130.jpg

Let me know what you think!

Thanks!

Hmm, the first one doesn't look vanilla to me don't see any blushing on the head. But the second one does look like a fire with the blushing on the sides and colors.

my initial thoughts were the first one was vanilla and the second fire, but it's hard to tell. so take my opinion with a grain of salt. lol i'm by no means a vanilla expert.

1 v
2 v
3 f