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Is this a chocolate?

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  • 09-16-2013, 09:56 AM
    ball-nut
    Is this a chocolate?
    As the title says really, does this look like a chocolate?
    I got her as a sub adult from a store in 2006 with unknown history. I have bred her twice, to a Yellowbelly and then a pastel. The first breeding yielded 2 Yellowbellies and a normal. One yellow belly died but the darker one of the two lived and kept it. That Yellowbelly has grown on now and is much more "bronze" then the normal golden colours ive seen on other Yellowbellies.
    This year I bred her to a nice grazi pastel and produced 2 pastels and 2 normals. Both pastels are quite dark and look browned out already, they both have a clear central belly but heavy patterning on the scales immediately connecting the centre belly scales which I have not seen on a pastel before. Also from this clutch, one of the normals is very dark with much deeper colouration, the yellow stretches right down into the belly which itself is a dark creamy colour.

    Pics
    The big girl in question
    [IMG]www.platinum-pythons.co.uk/forums/posschoc.jpg[/IMG]

    [IMG]www.platinum-pythons.co.uk/forums/posschoc1.jpg[/IMG]

    [IMG]www.platinum-pythons.co.uk/forums/Posschochead.jpg[/IMG]

    The dark Yellowbelly when younger.
    It held a lot more red/orange than anything I'd seen before.
    [IMG]www.platinum-pythons.co.uk/forums/Posschocyb.png[/IMG]

    And now, & compared with a female holdback roughly same age.
    [IMG]www.platinum-pythons.co.uk/forums/posschocyb1.jpg[/IMG]

    [IMG]www.platinum-pythons.co.uk/forums/posschocybvsyb.jpg [/IMG]

    The pastel
    [IMG]www.platinum-pythons.co.uk/forums/posschocpast.jpg[/IMG]

    [IMG]www.platinum-pythons.co.uk/forums/Posschocpastbelly.jpg[/IMG]

    And lastly the dark normal compared with a normal
    [IMG]www.platinum-pythons.co.uk/forums/Normvsposschoc.jpg[/IMG]

    Thanks.

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  • 09-16-2013, 10:08 AM
    ball-nut
    As the title says really, does this look like a chocolate?
    I got her as a sub adult from a store in 2006 with unknown history. I have bred her twice, to a Yellowbelly and then a pastel. The first breeding yielded 2 Yellowbellies and a normal. One yellow belly died but the darker one of the two lived and kept it. That Yellowbelly has grown on now and is much more "bronze" then the normal golden colours ive seen on other Yellowbellies.
    This year I bred her to a nice grazi pastel and produced 2 pastels and 2 normals. Both pastels are quite dark and look browned out already, they both have a clear central belly but heavy patterning on the scales immediately connecting the centre belly scales which I have not seen on a pastel before. Also from this clutch, one of the normals is very dark with much deeper colouration, the yellow stretches right down into the belly which itself is a dark creamy colour.

    Pics
    The big girl in question
    [IMG]www.platinum-pythons.co.uk/htdocs/Forums/Forums/posschoc.jpg[/IMG]

    [IMG]www.platinum-pythons.co.uk/forums/Forums/posschoc1.jpg[/IMG]

    [IMG]www.platinum-pythons.co.uk/forums/Forums/Posschochead.jpg[/IMG]

    The dark Yellowbelly when younger.
    It held a lot more red/orange than anything I'd seen before.

    [IMG]www.platinum-pythons.co.uk/forums/Forums/Posschocyb.png[/IMG]

    And now, & compared with a female holdback roughly same age.

    [IMG]www.platinum-pythons.co.uk/forums/Forums/posschocyb1.jpg[/IMG]

    [IMG]www.platinum-pythons.co.uk/forums/Forums/posschocybvsyb.jpg[/IMG]

    The pastel
    [IMG]www.platinum-pythons.co.uk/forums/forums/posschocpast.jpg[/IMG]

    [IMG]www.platinum-pythons.co.uk/forums/forums/Posschocpastbelly.jpg[/IMG]

    And lastly the dark normal compared with a normal
    [IMG]www.platinum-pythons.co.uk/forums/forums/Normvsposschoc.jpg[/IMG]

    Thanks.




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  • 09-16-2013, 10:09 AM
    Neal
    Re: Is this a chocolate?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ball-nut View Post
    As the title says really, does this look like a chocolate?
    I got her as a sub adult from a store in 2006 with unknown history. I have bred her twice, to a Yellowbelly and then a pastel. The first breeding yielded 2 Yellowbellies and a normal. One yellow belly died but the darker one of the two lived and kept it. That Yellowbelly has grown on now and is much more "bronze" then the normal golden colours ive seen on other Yellowbellies.
    This year I bred her to a nice grazi pastel and produced 2 pastels and 2 normals. Both pastels are quite dark and look browned out already, they both have a clear central belly but heavy patterning on the scales immediately connecting the centre belly scales which I have not seen on a pastel before. Also from this clutch, one of the normals is very dark with much deeper colouration, the yellow stretches right down into the belly which itself is a dark creamy colour.

    Pics
    The big girl in question
    [IMG]www.platinum-pythons.co.uk/Forums/Forums/posschoc.jpg[/IMG]

    [IMG]www.platinum-pythons.co.uk/forums/Forums/posschoc1.jpg[/IMG]

    [IMG]www.platinum-pythons.co.uk/forums/Forums/Posschochead.jpg[/IMG]

    The dark Yellowbelly when younger.
    It held a lot more red/orange than anything I'd seen before.

    [IMG]www.platinum-pythons.co.uk/forums/Forums/Posschocyb.png[/IMG]

    And now, & compared with a female holdback roughly same age.

    [IMG]www.platinum-pythons.co.uk/forums/Forums/posschocyb1.jpg[/IMG]

    [IMG]www.platinum-pythons.co.uk/forums/Forums/posschocybvsyb.jpg [/IMG]

    The pastel
    [IMG]www.platinum-pythons.co.uk/forums/forums/posschocpast.jpg[/IMG]

    [IMG]www.platinum-pythons.co.uk/forums/forums/Posschocpastbelly.jpg[/IMG]

    And lastly the dark normal compared with a normal
    [IMG]www.platinum-pythons.co.uk/forums/forums/Normvsposschoc.jpg[/IMG]

    Thanks.




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    Still not working, sometimes you have to put http:// in front, I tried but didn't work for me still so maybe wrong link?
  • 09-16-2013, 10:22 AM
    ball-nut
    Ill try again when at pc methinks
  • 09-16-2013, 10:25 AM
    ball-nut
    1st post links bad but 2nd attempt showing on mobile ok links ???

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  • 09-16-2013, 10:44 AM
    ball-nut
    Re: Is this a chocolate?
    PicsThe big girl in question

    http://platinum-pythons.co.uk/Forums...s/posschoc.jpg

    http://platinum-pythons.co.uk/forums.../posschoc1.jpg

    http://platinum-pythons.co.uk/forums...sschochead.jpg

    The dark Yellowbelly when younger.It held a lot more red/orange than anything I'd seen before.

    http://platinum-pythons.co.uk/forums...Posschocyb.png

    And now, & compared with a female holdback roughly same age.
    http://platinum-pythons.co.uk/forums...osschocyb1.jpg

    http://platinum-pythons.co.uk/forums...chocybvsyb.jpg
    The pastel
    http://platinum-pythons.co.uk/forums...sschocpast.jpg

    http://platinum-pythons.co.uk/forums...cpastbelly.jpg
    And lastly the dark normal compared with a normal
    http://platinum-pythons.co.uk/forums...vsposschoc.jpg
    Thanks. Hope this works

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  • 09-17-2013, 02:22 PM
    ball-nut
    Anyone?

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  • 09-21-2013, 07:39 AM
    ball-nut
    Just bumping this 'cuz im curious to what people think.
  • 09-21-2013, 07:44 AM
    Neal
    I wish I could help you but I've got 0 experience with the Chocolate gene. Try to get Freakie_Frog or Luke_Martin in here to help you. There pretty good with the gene guessing :P
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