Male Vs Female in breeding.

Hey guys, so I've been doing a lot of research on breeding and though I might get a pair of balls to breed. I already have balls and other herps. I have looked closely at a lot of morphs and decided I want to start with a Super pastel that I would pair with a Spider. My question is which one should be female and which one male? Would there be benefits to having a particular morph being a certain sex? Thank you in advanced- Ian

If you want a super pastel and a spider, I would buy a male super pastel and a female spider. You may want to buy more females in the future, and then you could breed multiple females with your male super pastel. Just my opinion though :)

Economically, it makes more sense to pair genetically greater males with genetically lower females. In your case, this means that you'd pair your Super Pastel male with your Spider female.

Edit: Genetically, it doesn't matter one way or the other. You'd get the same clutch odds pairing a Spider male with a Super Pastel female.

Ok thank you for the replies, do you think these would be a good choice to start off with? I am open to any idea or suggestions.

Sure, it's a good pair, I was thinking about what to get for a first pair too, and I was thinking a spider (or bee, since I find them so pretty) would be one, but the head wobble bothers me. I was thinking it would be nice to have a pair that could produce some BELs, like maybe a pastave to a lesser. I've also been wondering about super cinnamons, but I'm not sure if they are healthy (people talk about duck billing or something). I think super cinnamons and super black pastels are so neat looking! I guess I like solid colour morphs LOL.

Personally I'd be looking at a different male other than the super pastel - for example the pairing you've described will give u all pastels and bumblebees, whereas even if u swapped it round to a bumblebee male and a pastel female you could get the above plus a shot at a killerbee. Or there are other great combos you could put to a spider female like a lesser pastel to make queenbees... Obviously really depends on what you like and want to breed though!

One thing I would definitely consider is getting your female(s) first as these can take a looong time get up to size - I have a pastel het pied girl still stuck at the 1000g mark after getting her in 2010! That way you can hold out for the best male for the job (plus you can get breeding sized males a lot cheaper than females)

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Originally Posted by Ben.L

Personally I'd be looking at a different male other than the super pastel - for example the pairing you've described will give u all pastels and bumblebees

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I thought super pastel x spider will give u
25% pastels
25% spider
25% super pastel
25% killerbee



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Originally Posted by waddada

I thought super pastel x spider will give u
25% pastels
25% spider
25% super pastel
25% killerbee

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Super Pastel x Spider will give you
50% Pastel
50% Bumble Bee

To hit a Super Pastel or Killer Bee, both parents need to carry the Pastel gene. You won't get any spiders due to one of the parents being a Super Pastel.

Or in other words, 'supers' only pass on 1 of that specific gene, though all offspring are guaranteed to have it, so no normals...

I think a pastel spotnose is a very pretty combo that not a whole lot of people make. With a super pastel male / spotnose female you'd get 50% pastel spotnose, 50% pastel.

Find a combo you like and run with it:)