I need some opinions... (YB x Normal)

Thanks in advance for any help with these guys!

So, this isn't quite your standard "Are these hatchlings yellow bellies or not?" post. I had a couple odd things pop up in these three and I don't quite trust myself to make a judgement on what is going on here.

Firstly, the sire of this clutch was purchased as a Yellow Belly and came from a proven Yellow Belly sire. The breeder told me there was a chance that he was a yellow belly chocolate (as was the sire), but he wasn't sure. I didn't think much about it until his babies hatched out this year.

The dam is a wild caught normal. She's always had a nice, light coloration and a pretty clean belly.

Sire (Eros):

http://www.kaseymay.com/reptiles/eros2.jpg

http://www.kaseymay.com/reptiles/eros_belly.jpg


Dam (Mithril):

http://www.kaseymay.com/reptiles/mithril1.jpg

http://www.kaseymay.com/reptiles/mithril2.jpg


The hatchlings (hatched on 06/21/2013):

#1 - has three weird, gray patches along one side of its neck.

http://www.kaseymay.com/reptiles/1.jpg

http://www.kaseymay.com/reptiles/1_side.jpg

http://www.kaseymay.com/reptiles/1_side2.jpg

http://www.kaseymay.com/reptiles/1_tongue.jpg


#2 - has dark, rich colors. It's by far the darkest of the three. It just figure out eating on its own, finally. It's a little smaller than the other two right now.

http://www.kaseymay.com/reptiles/2.jpg

http://www.kaseymay.com/reptiles/2Sides.jpg

http://www.kaseymay.com/reptiles/2_belly.jpg


#3 - has a really busy pattern and lots of blushing/flames.

http://www.kaseymay.com/reptiles/3.jpg

http://www.kaseymay.com/reptiles/3_a.jpg

http://www.kaseymay.com/reptiles/3_belly.jpg


Thanks again for any help! I really appreciate it!

Anybody? :oops:

Well...the mom is a genetic blackback. And the dark one is really pretty. But I don't know anything about Chocolates.
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...-yellow-belly/

Not too much on WoBP either.

Not sure either :/ but #2 and 3 are hotttt!! 👍👍🍻

As far as I know Chocolate is a super-subtle morph, so I won't be much help there. Baby 1's grey patches could be paradoxical? The patterning looks a bit different inside those splotches, which is what makes me think.

I could not even begin to tell you what's up with contestants 2 and 3. All I have to say is WOW to number 2. I think I'm in love with that baby.


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Well..I'd say looking at #2 that the sire is definitely Chocolate. The other 2 are really interesting. They both have the white outlines on their side pattern and #3 almost looks ghost-like. I'd say you might have stumbled on some new genetics with mom.

Thank you all for your input!

As far as #1 goes, some I have asked are thinking Shatter but I can barely find ANYTHING about that particular mutation anywhere.

I was hoping #2 was a chocolate, that opens up some new possibilities! I'm definitely going to keep an eye on it as it gets older. Same goes for #3.

I feel like I got a real mixed bag with this lot - it's kind of exciting. :)

3 looks like yb more then the others

I don't know about one and two, but I think three definitely has yb.

I'd say #3 definitely has YB, #1 and 2 do not. If #2 is a male I would breed it back to mom.