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  • 08-02-2013, 12:27 PM
    scooter11
    Super form
    Quick fitter. If you breed a super form of a gene, does that mean all the babies have at least that gene?

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  • 08-02-2013, 12:29 PM
    Eric Alan
    Re: Super form
    Yes. :gj:
  • 08-02-2013, 12:29 PM
    TJ_Burton
    If you breed any reptile homozygous for a specific trait, than yes, the offspring will be heterozygous for that gene at minimum.
  • 08-02-2013, 12:52 PM
    ARamos8
    It will have 1 copy of it, yes. :D
  • 08-02-2013, 01:09 PM
    scooter11
    Re: Super form
    That's what I thought but wasn't sure. How much impact does this have on the probability of offspring having the super form in it. For example, if I breed a super pastel lesser to a normal all the offspring will have pastel right. Does this increase the probability(generally speaking) of getting another super pastel or spl?

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  • 08-02-2013, 01:12 PM
    TJ_Burton
    Re: Super form
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by scooter11 View Post
    That's what I thought but wasn't sure. How much impact does this have on the probability of offspring having the super form in it. For example, if I breed a super pastel lesser to a normal all the offspring will have pastel right. Does this increase the probability(generally speaking) of getting another super pastel or spl?

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    A super can not create another super on its own. Super pastel x normal will result in pastel offspring only. Super pastel x pastel would yield pastel, and super pastel offspring. Super pastel x super pastel would yield all super pastel offspring.

    Have a look at Mark Mandic's genetics page, it may help you understand this subject better: http://ballpython.ca/what_get/co_dominant.html
  • 08-02-2013, 01:14 PM
    Eric Alan
    Re: Super form
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by scooter11 View Post
    That's what I thought but wasn't sure. How much impact does this have on the probability of offspring having the super form in it. For example, if I breed a super pastel lesser to a normal all the offspring will have pastel right. Does this increase the probability(generally speaking) of getting another super pastel or spl?

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    It only increases the probability based on the fact that there's 100% certainty that the gene will be passed along to the offspring from the super parent. It has no bearing on what happens with the other gene that has to come from the other parent to get another super offspring.
  • 08-02-2013, 01:43 PM
    scooter11
    Re: Super form
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TJ_Burton View Post
    A super can not create another super on its own. Super pastel x normal will result in pastel offspring only. Super pastel x pastel would yield pastel, and super pastel offspring. Super pastel x super pastel would yield all super pastel

    I'm sorry, I write normal, but in my head I was thinking super pastel and a bumblebee.


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  • 08-02-2013, 03:18 PM
    Pythonfriend
    Re: Super form
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by scooter11 View Post
    I'm sorry, I write normal, but in my head I was thinking super pastel and a bumblebee.


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    the difference between super pastel x pastel and super pastel x bee is that in one case half of the snakes will get the spider gene.

    and for the odds.... its 25%, 25%, 25% and 25% for each of the 4 possibilities. or 50% and 50% for each of the two possibilities in the case without spider.

    and all that can be figured out using a morph calculator :)
  • 08-02-2013, 06:19 PM
    jms0620
    having a super pastel and breeding it to a pastel or bee would give you 50% supers and 50% pastels if you dont count the spider gene now breeding a pastel to a pastel or bee would give you 25% supers and 50% pastels and 25% normals again not counting the spider gene so haveing a super would increase your chances of getting a super by 25% over having just a pastel breeding a super to normal would produce all pastels
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