Check Out What We Just Hatched!

So our first clutch of the season has finally hatched. The breeding was a Pastel Lesser & Champagne to a Normal female. Out of this clutch we got 8 eggs, with 1 going bad. The remaining 7 went full term and hatched just the other day. Of the 7 eggs, we got 1 normal, 2 pastels, 3 champagnes, and this guy. We are not sure what he is. We showed a large breeder friend of ours a picture of it while it was inside the egg and he said Pastel Lesser paradox. Now that it is out of the egg, he is saying Champagne paradox. We THINK it was somehow fertilized by two separate sperm cells from each father (which is supposed to be impossible). We are not claiming it is a dual sired baby, but think that it MAY be one. You can clearly see both the Pastel Lesser and Champagne in him. Regardless of what he turns out to be, he is still pretty fricking cool. What do you guys think?

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I dont have a clue what it is, but its awesome looking!

Chimera possibly? It's not unheard of for "twins" to have different sires, and chimerism could occur between half-sibling twins. Theoretically.

Anybody with more experience with twins and/or chimeras feel free to tell me if I'm wrong, but when you take Occam's Razor to the situation this makes sense to me.

Anyway, I'm super jealous over here! What a hot little baby! Feel free to send it my way if you don't want it :D

holy smokes :O:gj:

Very nice hatchling you have there guess its a keeper.

One more thing to hope for from dual-sired clutches :D! Very nice!

very interesting. i'd be holding onto this as well. i don't know much about chimeras, but from what i do know, i think it would either have one or the other's (champagne or pastel lesser's) sex organs. it would definitely be interesting to see what he produces, and since it's a male you shouldn't have to wait too long. that is, of course, if that's actually what this little guy is. congrats.

He is too awesome!! That first pic almost looks like two different snakes are balled up together

That is amazing!

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Originally Posted by SaintTawny

Chimera possibly? It's not unheard of for "twins" to have different sires, and chimerism could occur between half-sibling twins. Theoretically.

Anybody with more experience with twins and/or chimeras feel free to tell me if I'm wrong, but when you take Occam's Razor to the situation this makes sense to me.

Anyway, I'm super jealous over here! What a hot little baby! Feel free to send it my way if you don't want it :D

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This was my exact thought. Chimerism happens in animals and in humans! I remember a court case where the state was trying to take a mother's child away because it showed that she wasn't the mother. However, upon further investigation, she had 2 different sets of DNA and 2 of her kids took one set and the other child took the other set. Seems plausable that this could have happened. A set of twins (one champagne, one lesser/pastel lesser) fused VERY early on (within days of fertilization) and it hatched out a visible chimera!

I would DEFINITELY hold that boy back and breed it to a normal. If it is a chimera, you should get champagnes and lessers. That will be a cool project to watch!