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  • 07-12-2013, 02:19 PM
    jasonmcgilvrey83
    boaphile size for full grown bp.
    What size should I get for my bps. I'm looking into buying three boaphiles for my bps and need a size for a forever cage for them. Any ideas. All three all three are males. So tired of the over head heat and glass tanks but don't want a rack system yet.
  • 07-12-2013, 02:34 PM
    norwegn113
    I would say either a 421D or the 422D depending on how much head room you want them to have and if you plan to stack them. 48"x24" makes a nice forever home for ball pythons. 36"x24" is just slightly bigger than a 40 breeder which is on the low end of recommended.
  • 07-12-2013, 02:35 PM
    Willie76
    Re: boaphile size for full grown bp.
    Go with Animal Plastics's T8: http://www.apcages.com

    Boaphile takes months and months to get and customer service is worst in the industry, IMO.
  • 07-12-2013, 02:59 PM
    norwegn113
    I also like vision cages. They are a bit more pricey but they are a good looking cage. I will say that I do not own one and have only seen them at shows so I dont know how they perform so this is based on looks only!
  • 07-12-2013, 03:07 PM
    Rickys_Reptiles
    I would say, save your money and go somewhere else! Boaphile :puke2:
  • 07-12-2013, 04:45 PM
    jasonmcgilvrey83
    The t8 looks nice. Also my other question is what do I need for the set up. And how to set it up. Haven't done anything but critter cages and I know the set up is different. If there's a forum here on that info can I post link please
  • 07-12-2013, 05:18 PM
    The Serpent Merchant
    Re: boaphile size for full grown bp.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jasonmcgilvrey83 View Post
    The t8 looks nice. Also my other question is what do I need for the set up. And how to set it up. Haven't done anything but critter cages and I know the set up is different. If there's a forum here on that info can I post link please

    How to set up: http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...With-Pictures!
  • 07-13-2013, 02:24 AM
    jasonmcgilvrey83
    Thanks serpent
  • 07-13-2013, 04:58 AM
    treeboa
    Agree about the Boaphile. If all goes well he usually doesn't take any longer than anyone else. The thing is if you have a problem, he loses your order or your cage arrives damaged for instance, you will have a really had time getting a hold of him. He doesn't answer email, ever. He used to answer his phone or return calls faithfully, but doesn't do that any more either. I have a lot of his racks and cages, but I don't think I would take the chance of ordering from him in the future. AP does have a great product and great customer service. About cage size, bigger isn't always better with Balls. I put 2 of my females in 4x2 cages from 41qt (3x18inch) tubs. My Cinny female thrived in it. My big normal stayed in her hide all the time and stopped eating until I put her back in the tub. Some breeders keep their males in 32qt tubs, which are 23inches x 16inches, I believe. Just something to consider.
  • 07-13-2013, 02:59 PM
    jasonmcgilvrey83
    Thanks for all the info guys. I think I will go with a couple t8s from animal plastic. I like their key locking system with the sliding doors anyways. Lol. Won't be able to get them till after August tho. Still need to get two more helix or a herpstat2 and stack the cages. Now to consider flex Watt or radiant heat panel. What do u guys use and why?
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