super cinnys

So i've been looking into trying to breed some balls; i have the set-up planned out for housing a clutch of 6... plus the parents. I have currently a very small 0.1 normal.

I really want to get a Axanthic or similar black/white morph however i really like the cinnys.

I was contemplating breeding a cinny x normal (that i have already) leaving my with 1/2 cin 1/2 normal correct??

Then i could trade out for another Cinny so as to not inbreed do the cinny x cinny which would give me a shot at a super correct?


As far as Cinnys go i see them from 100-250; would it be counter-productive to look at a Cinny het. something?

Thanks in advanced

I'm kind of confused what you're asking.
Cinnamon x Normal gives you a 50% chance of getting normal babies, and 50% chance of getting cinnamon babies... yes. No het; Cinny isn't recessive.
Technically you can inbreed, people do it all the time, though that's usually to prove something out or for recessives, etc, etc- so yes bringing in new blood isn't a bad idea. You could sell the babies to buy a female cinny, thus allowing you to breed cinny x cinny to produce a super cinny. Alternatively, you could just buy a female cinny now, with the male, to give her time to mature, or sell the normal. If you buy a baby cinny when you sell your other babies, you'll have to wait a couple years to breed her anyway.

Unless you have plans / project in mind for a future gene, I wouldn't buy a het anything. If all you want, or will ever want, are cinnies / super cinnies, why pay more for a gene you won't use?

Also, as a side note, I would plan to hatch more than six hatchlings. You never know what you're gonna get.

Oh, and I may be wrong, but I think there was some whisperings of cinny x cinny being more prone to defects? Can someone confirm or deny?

I think super cinnies are just as prone to deformities as super blacks? I think cinny/black is less of a chance, like how super lesser has more issues than mojo/lesser. Honestly, OP, trying to breed your own super cinny is just begging for heartbreak. They're produced in such small numbers because so rarely do you get a flawless specimen. I don't want to scare you off them because they're beautiful snakes, but super cinnys or super black pastels kink or have misshaped heads so often that if you want to breed them it isn't something that I would recommend as a first project. Often babies have to be culled because they're so badly kinked or they fail to thrive. I would safe up your pennies and hope to find one that somebody else has produced.

Maybe i'll look into a killerbee project then...

Just trying to find something where i can get going in less than 3 years with and i am interested in... trying to keep the dom/co-doms very basic so i can see the visual outcomes and understand it better

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Originally Posted by nobigdeal508

So i've been looking into trying to breed some balls; i have the set-up planned out for housing a clutch of 6... plus the parents. I have currently a very small 0.1 normal. Six is probably okay, but have flexibility in case you need to build a few more baby spots in - 6 is just the average.

I really want to get a Axanthic or similar black/white morph however i really like the cinnys.

I was contemplating breeding a cinny x normal (that i have already) leaving my with 1/2 cin 1/2 normal correct?? Correct.

Then i could trade out for another Cinny so as to not inbreed do the cinny x cinny which would give me a shot at a super correct? Correct.


As far as Cinnys go i see them from 100-250; would it be counter-productive to look at a Cinny het. something? It's almost never counter-productive to add genes. You could look for a cinny het axanthic (haven't seen many), or something like a cinny het hypo (can't really go wrong with anything hypo).

Thanks in advanced

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Good luck!

Thanks for the input guys, maybe i'll just stick it out a few more months until a local show comes up.