Super Stripe ?'s

So, after seeing the "Marvel Ball" (or Citrus Super Stripe) on Markus Jayne's website, I decided to play around with the genetic wizard and came across something interesting. O.K. So you breed the Specter and the Yellow Belly to make the Super Stripe, right? And the Citrus Super Stripe (CSS) is a Citrus Pastel, Specter, and the YB all rolled into one. Alright. Here's where it gets strange. If you have a Super Stripe, and you breed it to the Citrus Pastel, it shows that you won't get a CSS out of that clutch. The only way to get it is to have a Citrus Pastel YB bred to the Specter. It won't work the other way around. Is this just a glitch in the genetic wizard, or is it just the way these genes work together? In other words, you have to have the YB in one parent, and the Specter gene in the other in order to produce it this way? Anyway, I love the Marvel Ball, and would love to make one some day, "Lord willing and the creek don't rise!" Just found this a little strange.

Spector and YB are allelic and in the same gene complex. Meaning the homozygous form "super stripe" when bred to a normal would yield either spectors or ybs and no normals and no superstripes. Much as a ivory to normal would make all ybs and no ivory, only difference is in this case you are substituting a YB gene for a Spector gene. It works with way with all the complex mutations from blue eye lucy, black eye Lucy, black pastel complex and YB complex.

So to make a pastel super stipe you need to cross Spector and yb together in the same pairing, with either of which having pastel as well. Hopefully this makes sense.

Never even knew about that. I'm glad there is an easy explanation for it, and I have a lot to learn. Thank you for the herpetology/genealogy lesson, MLB! Very much appreciated! :D

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Originally Posted by majorleaguereptiles

Spector and YB are allelic and in the same gene complex. Meaning the homozygous form "super stripe" when bred to a normal would yield either spectors or ybs and no normals and no superstripes. Much as a ivory to normal would make all ybs and no ivory, only difference is in this case you are substituting a YB gene for a Spector gene. It works with way with all the complex mutations from blue eye lucy, black eye Lucy, black pastel complex and YB complex.

So to make a pastel super stipe you need to cross Spector and yb together in the same pairing, with either of which having pastel as well. Hopefully this makes sense.

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Originally Posted by majorleaguereptiles

Spector and YB are allelic and in the same gene complex. Meaning the homozygous form "super stripe" when bred to a normal would yield either spectors or ybs and no normals and no superstripes. Much as a ivory to normal would make all ybs and no ivory, only difference is in this case you are substituting a YB gene for a Spector gene. It works with way with all the complex mutations from blue eye lucy, black eye Lucy, black pastel complex and YB complex.

So to make a pastel super stipe you need to cross Spector and yb together in the same pairing, with either of which having pastel as well. Hopefully this makes sense.

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Is there someplace that has all the genes mentioned to date and what they are/are not allelic to each other? Or are the pairs you you mentioned the only ones who have these traits?

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Originally Posted by LocoKen

Is there someplace that has all the genes mentioned to date and what they are/are not allelic to each other? Or are the pairs you you mentioned the only ones who have these traits?

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http://www.owalreptiles.com/complexes.php

Though he is missing (in my opinion) a few morph in some of the complexes

I would also contend that there are three or four other allele groups that he does not list. But those he does list are probably the most relevant ones

Thank you for the reply! Sorry for the late one! You're amazing!

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Originally Posted by asplundii

http://www.owalreptiles.com/complexes.php

Though he is missing (in my opinion) a few morph in some of the complexes

I would also contend that there are three or four other allele groups that he does not list. But those he does list are probably the most relevant ones

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