Low white spider or something more?

I was thrilled when I got Toby. He didn't have 'high white' sides. They were almost all yellow with only a few scattered white scales peppering the side of the body. I don't like the high whites. They seem to take away the pattern and I don't find it esthetically appealing.
I saw some pictures of a multi-gene spider and it's sides were all yellow like Tobys. This got me thinking... Is Toby a low-white spider or is there maybe another gene in there?

http://orchidenterprise.com/Life_Out...ix/Toby-01.jpg

http://orchidenterprise.com/Life_Out...ix/Toby-02.jpg

http://orchidenterprise.com/Life_Out...ix/Toby-03.jpg

http://orchidenterprise.com/Life_Out...ix/Toby-04.jpg

http://orchidenterprise.com/Life_Out...ix/Toby-05.jpg

Andy - :snake:

He just looks like a nice low white spider to me.

I'm not experienced, but it looks somewhat like an enchi (stinger) bee to me, if there were another gene at play. That would explain the yellow going up the sides.

I'm voting a low white spider also. There are combos with sides like that, but the pattern usually gets tweaked

I don't think it looks like a stinger bee, the pattern isn't nearly close

do you know the breeder? any chance he might be het hypo?

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do you know the breeder? any chance he might be het hypo?

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I do know the breeder and I purchased several Hypos from him. Could hypo be in Tobys background?? I'd have to ask.
I do know that Toby is het for Carmel, but that shouldn't explain the low white sides...... would it??

Andy-:snake:

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Originally Posted by NormanSnake

I'm not experienced, but it looks somewhat like an enchi (stinger) bee to me, if there were another gene at play. That would explain the yellow going up the sides.

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Spider enchis have less lines and they tend to me more banded. I'd say its a BEAUTIFUL low white spider. Gorgeous either way


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Originally Posted by Andys-Python

I do know that Toby is het for Carmel, but that shouldn't explain the low white sides...... would it??

Andy-:snake:

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Yes him being het. Caramel could absolutely explain why he looks a little "different".
Recessive traits even in the het. form alter the appearance of the animal.

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Yes him being het. Caramel could absolutely explain why he looks a little "different".
Recessive traits even in the het. form alter the appearance of the animal.

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OK, then. That would explain it. I've never seen a caramel spider. I have two sub-adult females that are het for caramel. Maybe in a couple of years I'll see one of my own!

Thanks, EVERYONE, for you input!

Andy-:snake:

More than likely it is just that he is low white.

I have not heard of het Caramel having a visual effect, but who knows.

As far as other genes, Fire is one that notoriously causes low white, but yours does not have the pattern or color for that. Stingers tend to have some white, and are a different base color.