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  • 05-25-2013, 11:18 AM
    Snakydan
    White Pearls (Lesser x Normal)
    Sharing what we got for this season after a bad start early this year, this time I'm gonna be real real real patient ! :gj: here ---> http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...light=fatality

    This lesser male been breeding since Nov2012 up to date, is time to give him a break, managed to hook 4 females pregnant, must be exhausted, lol.

    Enjoy ~

    http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/...psf60cbe7d.jpg

    Proven female, 4 eggs 2 years ago. This year 7 eggs !

    http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/...psa429ecc7.jpg

    1 slug

    http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7ad4e033.jpg

    Straight into the incubator after some drawings :P

    http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/...ps01f7b2d1.jpg

    The waiting begins.

    Just wondering, I decided to cut only after one pips, however, how is the indication lets say after 70-80 days, nothing pip yet, and I want to make sure they doesn't drown in the egg, do I go on with it ? How long you guys give before deciding to cut ?

    Thanks
  • 05-25-2013, 11:25 AM
    4theSNAKElady
    Re: White Pearls (Lesser x Normal)
    70-80 days???? I don't mean to be rude, but if you've bred before, shouldn't you already know its 55-60 days? I mean, by 70-80 days mine have already emerged from the egg, shed, and most have eaten 1 or two small meals! But good luck with them, and may the odds be ever in your favor....
  • 05-25-2013, 11:30 AM
    Snakydan
    Re: White Pearls (Lesser x Normal)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 4theSNAKElady View Post
    70-80 days???? I don't mean to be rude, but if you've bred before, shouldn't you already know its 55-60 days? I mean, by 70-80 days mine have already emerged from the egg, shed, and most have eaten 1 or two small meals! But good luck with them, and may the odds be ever in your favor....

    To be honest, I haven't tried anything 70-80days so far, but I do have a few clutches up to 65 days and not pip or dimple, so I just cut it, thought of a more per caution way to think of is how long you guys wait and cut if none pip at all, or of all cases your bp eggs definitely will pip between 55-60days ? Thanks tho
  • 05-25-2013, 11:33 AM
    rabernet
    Re: White Pearls (Lesser x Normal)
    What temp are you incubating at?

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  • 05-25-2013, 11:36 AM
    PitOnTheProwl
    You must be incubating really cool?
    89ish degrees gets you done cooking about 55 to 60 days.
  • 05-25-2013, 11:44 AM
    seang89
    It seems as though you are mixing up maternal incubation times and, actual incubation times.
    If you are incubating eggs at 88F-89F , they should hatch in a window of 54-60 days.

    You are incubating them right? at what temperature?
    When where these eggs laid?
    Did you candle them to make sure they a Fertile?

    You can cut on day 55 if you want, they MUST have been incubated at 89F for 55 day
  • 05-25-2013, 11:49 AM
    Snakydan
    Re: White Pearls (Lesser x Normal)
    Thanks for all your feed backs. I'm doing 87-89, well. I shall just keep a closer eye on this !
  • 05-25-2013, 12:02 PM
    qegalpal
    I check temps using an infrared heat gun 3x a day for 5 days before I even put eggs in the incubator,
    hoping to ensure consistent temps for the entire incubation period. Then I re-check every 3 days to stay on top of it,
    too much at stake.
    Now the hard part begins, good luck.
  • 05-25-2013, 01:00 PM
    FireStorm
    White Pearls (Lesser x Normal)
    I think you need to get your temps really stable...it sounds like you have quite a bit of fluctuation. I have incubated as low as 85 and as high as 91 successfully, but with less than a degree of fluctuation each time. IMO, the stability of the temperature is more important than what the temperature actually is (as long as the temp is within a reasonable range). My guess is that with your first clutch the temps were either lower than you thought for the entire time, or fluctuating enough that they spent enough time at lower temps, that they weren't ready when you cut them. Then, once you cut, it exposed the eggs to bacteria and insects which caused the yolk to rot.

    As far as when to cut, it's a bit hard to say without a better idea of the temps. It's pretty rare for the entire clutch to never pip. And, with our maternally incubated clutches (the tub is at 85) or those artificially incubated at 85, we have seen very long hatch times (average is probably 70-90 days).

    Are you sure that the device you are using to measure temps is calibrated properly? If its off by a degree or two, which wouldn't be that uncommon depending on what you use, it can make a huge difference.
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