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Sold to me as 2013 female lesser. I should have popped it there in front of the breeder but after I brought "her" home I'm pretty sure it's a male. I'm not extremely experienced but I can pop all the snakes I own reliably. No hemipenes come out, but there is two bright red dots where the hemipenes should be. This is male right? I will attach a picture, sorry it's not the best I thought it turned out better than that but you can kind of still see the red dots. I can take better pictures if requested. Will also attach pictures of the snake itself but only have cell phone pictures for now.

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Nice pickup! My, she's purdy, I love the wonked lesser patterns!

EDIT: It looks like a female. Did you roll your thumb all the way up?

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Originally Posted by Capray

Nice pickup! My, she's purdy, I love the wonked lesser patterns!

EDIT: It looks like a female. Did you roll your thumb all the way up?

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Yeah, I did. My male mojave pops the same way (still young). I figured it was because the hemipenes aren't fully developed. The other 3 female balls I have pop all exactly the same, they pop white with pinkish tinge, and their scent glands kind of stick out like hemipenes but not as large and with no red color. I will get better pictures tomorrow

Male or female thats a pretty lesser congrats!

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Originally Posted by Luciferskeeper

Male or female thats a pretty lesser congrats!

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Thank you :)

Can anyone help?

It's hard to say for sure from the pic, but I am fairly confident that it's female from your description. Hemipenes are developed enough to pop out from day one (popping is probably the most reliable in the first week or two of the snake's life since that is when they have the least muscle control). How sure are you that your Mojo is a male?

Here's a quote from VPI's website that my be helpful.

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The hemipenes of hatchling males are little pink or reddish rods that pop out, one on each side of the cloacal opening; on most species they have a visible red blood vessel on their medial surfaces. A females may evert her cloaca and erect her scent gland papillae in response to the pressure. The scent gland papillae may appear similar to hemipenes (especially if no comparison is possible,) though they are always smaller, and they may have a tiny red tip, but no blood vessel is visible.

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Here's a link to the page, as well, if you want to read the whole thing:
http://vpi.com/publications/determin..._sex_of_snakes

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Originally Posted by FireStorm

It's hard to say for sure from the pic, but I am fairly confident that it's female from your description. Hemipenes are developed enough to pop out from day one (popping is probably the most reliable in the first week or two of the snake's life since that is when they have the least muscle control). How sure are you that your Mojo is a male?

Here's a quote from VPI's website that my be helpful.


Here's a link to the page, as well, if you want to read the whole thing:
http://vpi.com/publications/determin..._sex_of_snakes

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I'm actually not 100% he is a male. Was sold to me as a male from a local small time breeder. I assumed that those red dots (they are there without me applying much pressure at all) was just that the hemipenes aren't fully developed. Somehow it escaped my knowledge that there is a "rod" that pops out from day one!! How did I miss this?? Well you know, I wouldn't be against him being a female. If "he" is, then I have 0.5 ball pythons haha