Just wanting to be sure

So I'm getting ready to purchase some ball pythons and because I want to get morphs I want to know what to look for and what to watch out for to make sure I get a good snake and make sure I don't get ripped off. The morphs I'm really interested in are Pastel, Spider, Pinstripe, Mojave, Lesser, and Enchi. Are there any good sites I should reference, besides worldofballpythons? Any help would be great! Thanks in advance :)

I'd post pics of any possibly new additions here and ask for input if you're unsure about quality. Here's some basic, quickie pointers that I look for personally in the morphs you listed:

Pastel: Yellow coloring, not orange (orange tones will brown out more so) and lots of blushing.
Pinny: Brighter orange coloring over the darker brown ones and I like a full connected dorsal stripe. Busy pins are nice too but not my preference.
Mojo: Lots of color with lots of blushing. I like high contrast and more reduced patterns.
Lesser/Butter: Lots of yellows and more reduced pattern. I like lots of white tones coming up from the belly and melting into the topline. Some will even have greeny/purpley tones that look really nice.
Enchi: Super reduced/banded is my preference over Enchis with lots of spots. Lots of yellow coloring.

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Originally Posted by Daybreaker

I'd post pics of any possibly new additions here and ask for input if you're unsure about quality. Here's some basic, quickie pointers that I look for personally in the morphs you listed:

Pastel: Yellow coloring, not orange (orange tones will brown out more so) and lots of blushing.
Pinny: Brighter orange coloring over the darker brown ones and I like a full connected dorsal stripe. Busy pins are nice too but not my preference.
Mojo: Lots of color with lots of blushing. I like high contrast and more reduced patterns.
Lesser/Butter: Lots of yellows and more reduced pattern. I like lots of white tones coming up from the belly and melting into the topline. Some will even have greeny/purpley tones that look really nice.
Enchi: Super reduced/banded is my preference over Enchis with lots of spots. Lots of yellow coloring.

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There is also a morph section on this forum below the "ball python forum" that has some helpful pointers too!

However, ultimately you want to look for animals that you like. Sure there are some characteristics that have been voted "correct" for a morph, but if you don't like that, then don't buy it! For example. Some people like lessers/butters that are super reduced. However, there are some on this forum that like busy patterns. It's really all about what you like. Granted, if you plan on breeding in the future, just keep in mind what most people like. You want to produce babies that will sell.

We do plan on breeding and agree we do want babies that will sell, not because we are doing it for the money but as much as we'd like to keep them all we just don't have the room, lol. Also thanks for the help so far, one that was missed was spider though. Thanks again.


~CRR

For spiders, here is what I look for:

• more yellow-gold rather than gold-brown color. You want something bright and clean.
• White sides...in my opinion, the higher and whiter the better.
• No dots! Some spiders will have little black dots in their pattern that most people dislike.
• No dorsal striping and a broken pattern - you want a pattern that's very broken.

Basically, look at images 5 and 6 on this page ( http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/spider/ ) I would own those spider in a heartbeat! Here you can see the broken pattern, high white sides, zero dots, and his overall yellow-gold color.

i would stay away from spiders. they wobble, twitch, and spazz out lol. for your first snake a good starter would be albino, pastel, mojave/lesser, pinstripe, or enchi. id recommend albino... get thats just me:cool:

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Originally Posted by tomjones456

i would stay away from spiders. they wobble, twitch, and spazz out lol. for your first snake a good starter would be albino, pastel, mojave/lesser, pinstripe, or enchi. id recommend albino... get thats just me:cool:

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Not ALL spiders wobble. I you're looking at a spider morph you want to buy, hold it and observe it, if it is swaying, or has a tilted head, that may just mean it needs a little extra patience during feeding time.

All spiders wobble. They just differ by degree of wobble. Some can range from almost non existant and unnoticeable to cork screwing train wrecks.
But all spiders wobble. The wobble itself is the spider gene. Some will say its something else attached to the spider gene. But either way, the wobble and the spider are a package.


But just because a spider wobbles or has the potential to become a worse wobbler, it doesn't affect their quality of life or their ability to breed, eat, drink, etc etc most of the time. The train wrecks are often culled or don't live very long.

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We have had some pet snakes in the past including balls, just never worked with breading. Does the degree of wobble for the Spiders get worse for babies as they bread out? Not sure if that question makes sense but if We buy one with a mild wobble will the babies be a little worse or is that a complete shoot in the dark?

~CRR

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Originally Posted by Capray

Not ALL spiders wobble. I you're looking at a spider morph you want to buy, hold it and observe it, if it is swaying, or has a tilted head, that may just mean it needs a little extra patience during feeding time.

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most of them do have it though. that corkscrewing and spazzy behavior really scares me away from them! too bad, because spider morphs are some of the best looking ive ever seen... like the queen bee, or axanthic bee :mad: