Het. Pied marker check please!

Hey all.

She was not sold to me as het pied or anything besides a normal but it doesnt hurt to see if these are markers or not since I really dont know how to truly spot het pied markers.

But before I throw my cinnamon in with her I wanted to check because I have a Male Pied that is ready to breed.

Oh and because I know you always want a ton of pics when I.Ding something so I hope I got you guys enough ;)

Full body shots :

Without Flash :
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0b5537e4.jpg

With Flash :
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6a1f5985.jpg

Without again :
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/...ps710dd821.jpg
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/...ps67979053.jpg


Right side of tail:
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/...ps60546fa6.jpg

Left side of tail:
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/...pse5d6f7b0.jpg

And bottom of tail :

http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8d586dab.jpg

http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/...psc892eb61.jpg

http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/...ps33774ef6.jpg

http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/...psd3fe6fb4.jpg

http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3cd0b8bd.jpg

http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1e67123b.jpg

http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0cc591a8.jpg

http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/...psdbb1c3be.jpg

http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8a4950ef.jpg




And uber cute face shot :

http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6b51c482.jpg




So yah I believe she is just a normal but it doesnt hurt to put these pictures up to see what you guys and gals think since I have no idea on how to check het pied markers.

Thanks everyone!!

They look somewhat like pied markers, they are usually more bold and connected but I still wouldn't bet on her being het pied,as you already said you bought her as a normal and most people don't toss het pied females as normals.. If you want to have a clutch of 100% het pieds then put your pied to her.If you want cinnamons then put the cinnamon to her.Its your call, good luck either way tho.

If you going to pair her to try to see if she's het pied, then pair her with a visual pied. At least you'd get 100% het pieds and not PH pieds. I also have a normal that has strong het pied markers, but she was a rescue so I don't have any info on her. I'm calling her a normal because normals can have het pied markers. However, I might pair her with a visual pied just in case alter on.

when compared to my he pied ( with papers ) she not as clean in the belly. I 2 het pied are really clean bellies were there is barely ( if any ) color (black) bleeding into the belly they stop at the side were the markers form. plus like said they really bold my male het pied is not a bold as my females but they proven out for me 3 times now.

Thanks guys like I said she is just a normal to me but I just wanted to check.

She looks very similar in markings to my PH Pied/Albino. Hoping to prove her out somewhere down the road. :D

http://i1338.photobucket.com/albums/...pse338b3be.jpg

http://i1338.photobucket.com/albums/...ps38d414f9.jpg


This is my other female PH Pied's markings.

http://i1338.photobucket.com/albums/...8/P1080366.jpg

IMO pied markers are only useful for picking out hatchlings that are more likely to be het pied from a clutch with pied genetics (unless you already happen to have a pied laying around to prove her out with). Normals can have a lot better pied markers than that and still be normal. Here is a male from a few years ago. Great markers and even a ringer, but just a normal.

http://www.iherp.com/Gallery/88170/5...ZwWgt5VS60.jpg