Bumblebees

Do bumblebees inherit the spider head wobble? Do the spiders suffer due to the wobble? I am very new to ball pythons and am curious to learn it all! ;)
Thanks.

Any morph with the spider gene will have a wobble.

In some cases, it can be extreme in which the animal usually suffers. By extreme, I mean smashing into the sides of their tubs repeatedly, etc.

I have two bumblebees and they don't have a noticeable wobble at all. When it comes to feeding they are a little wonky but are able to eat like everyone else.

If the wobble is extreme, do not attempt to breed. Although if your spider gene Bp has a little wobble, that does not mean its babies will be the same.

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Originally Posted by kylesdad77

Do bumblebees inherit the spider head wobble? Do the spiders suffer due to the wobble? I am very new to ball pythons and am curious to learn it all! ;)
Thanks.

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Yes all spider gene animals will have it. But please do not let that discourage you from working with spiders. I don't consider the wobble to be a bad thing at all, I have said this before but I think it actually can give them a little personality. They eat breed and thrive just the same as animals with out the wobble.

My new bumblebee does not show any sign of the wobble so far. It doesnt cause harm to them. My friend who breeds ball pythons said his male spiders can breed early and have a strong breeding and feeding response compared to the rest of his collection. But that is not the same for every spider. Some people work with the gene a lot and love them, some people choose not to work with them. I personally think anything spider is awsome and is my favorite gene (white sides, reduced pattern, green eyes).

As Bobbafett pointed out, some can be extreme, while others are barely noticeable. Some with likely only display signs of their wobble when it's time to eat. :)

I've got a young spider that has shown no wobble at all(knocks wood). I also have a spider-mojave with a wobble, but he's still a sweet snake. I have to basically put the mouse to his lips to avoid missed strikes and a feed refusal. Other than that he's just great and will be a breeder for me. I've heard wobble can be reduced by incubating eggs at slightly lower temps like 87-88. Anyone had any experience with this? Or is just a crap shoot every time?

http://static.photobucket.com/player...ps644b0ef9.mp4

i love Bee's

I did a lot of reading on the wobble when I was looking for a snake to buy. Basically the conclusion was it's present in all spiders or morphs with the spider gene, but it varies on how noticeable it is. The worst will corkscrew and/or flip upside down. The best will only have the slightest of wobbles when stressed or feeding. I saw some breeders trying to breed out the wobble but did not see any success. It's random on how noticeable it will be. It's not supposed to effect their quality of life, but to me I think the bad ones like flipping upside down would. Also, some get worse or better with age. It's just random. The consensus is that it's a neurological thing connected to the spider gene so if you breed spiders there's no way around it. It's why I didn't buy the bumblee male I really had my eye on and went with a pinstripe instead. I just don't want to feel sorry for my snake or end up producing one that corkscrews or flips or something. I'd feel awful seeing that.

I love my 1.1 bees :D
Weedle:
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/09/ejyjyna6.jpg
He shows his weirdness when he eats but other than that he's fine :) he's my little piggy

Satyana;
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/09/dydasyra.jpg
She's my drama queen, always hisses when I take her out haha

Oh! Are we sharing bumblebees? Here's my little Princess/piggy-
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/09/avy6e8e3.jpg


As far as wobble, anything with the spider gene can have it to some degree. I have also read it can be present young, or develop later. My girl is a year and a half, and only had a slight wobble the first few days I had her. Never see it now. It does discourage many from working with anything spider. But I just love the spider gene, and so I have it, and will work with it. They still eat, poop, and breed fine. :)


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