Won't switch from mice to rats :(((

So my girl is outgrowing her mice, and the last few days I've been trying to give her small rats but she won't take them. She's usually a pretty aggresssive eater... Any ideas?

Are they live, or f/t?

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Originally Posted by BP Newbie

So my girl is outgrowing her mice, and the last few days I've been trying to give her small rats but she won't take them. She's usually a pretty aggresssive eater... Any ideas?

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Some just won't switch and you may just have to feed multiple mice

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Originally Posted by NormanSnake

Are they live, or f/t?

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f/t

There are a few things I've been told you can do to switch over from a mouse to a rat. I don't know if you've tried any of these methods, but here they are:

1) Try switching to live temporarily. Start with a smaller rat and make sure you monitor the whole time. If you are really uncomfortable switching to live, then perhaps try pre-killed. I don't know if it necessarily has the same effect, but maybe the more consistent body temperature will help?

2) Whether you do live, pre-killed, or F/T, rub mouse scent all over the rat and present it to the snake. You can go to a pet store and ask for bedding from a mouse enclosure and keep the rat in a box with the bedding for a little bit (make sure the bedding isn't infested or anything).

3) Another method I've heard of is called "priming" (Ithink!). What you do is get two prey items, one mouse and one rat, that are about half the size of what you would normall feed (half the size your ball pythons should be eating). Start with the mouse and offer it to your snake. After your snake has eaten it and stretched out some, offer the rat. Once again, sometimes scenting the rat with a mouse smell may help.

If your female is at a good weight and not too young, you can also hold off feeding for a feeding or two until she takes the rat. If she is relatively small though, I wouldn't do that. Also, have you tried just leaving it in the enclosure over night? Hope this helps a bit and good luck get your little girl eating rats soon!

if you're planning on breeding her, I would get her up to size on mice. after she lays a clutch of eggs wash her and her enclosure and then switch. if you want to breed her. making a switch could slow her down getting to size also.

I just feed multiple mice each feeding. My bps are just as big and healthy as rat eaters.

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Originally Posted by Missvan

There are a few things I've been told you can do to switch over from a mouse to a rat. I don't know if you've tried any of these methods, but here they are:

1) Try switching to live temporarily. Start with a smaller rat and make sure you monitor the whole time. If you are really uncomfortable switching to live, then perhaps try pre-killed. I don't know if it necessarily has the same effect, but maybe the more consistent body temperature will help?

2) Whether you do live, pre-killed, or F/T, rub mouse scent all over the rat and present it to the snake. You can go to a pet store and ask for bedding from a mouse enclosure and keep the rat in a box with the bedding for a little bit (make sure the bedding isn't infested or anything).

3) Another method I've heard of is called "priming" (Ithink!). What you do is get two prey items, one mouse and one rat, that are about half the size of what you would normall feed (half the size your ball pythons should be eating). Start with the mouse and offer it to your snake. After your snake has eaten it and stretched out some, offer the rat. Once again, sometimes scenting the rat with a mouse smell may help.

If your female is at a good weight and not too young, you can also hold off feeding for a feeding or two until she takes the rat. If she is relatively small though, I wouldn't do that. Also, have you tried just leaving it in the enclosure over night? Hope this helps a bit and good luck get your little girl eating rats soon!

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I don't want to switch to live for fear that she will only start eating live. I've tried rubbing the rat with mice, and leaving the rat in her home over night, neither worked. I might try the priming thing, but I need to find the right size mouse and rat for that.

There is nothing wrong with live.

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Originally Posted by DrDooLittle

There is nothing wrong with live.

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X2, some will never take to FT and that's just fine. It's up to us the keepers to find out what and how our animals like to eat :)