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markers for het hypo??

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  • 12-26-2012, 06:21 PM
    jesst
    markers for het hypo??
    Are there any markers for a het hypo normal female? Our smallest normal BP is supposed to be 100% het hypo and i know we will not know for a couple of years but we are planning on when big enough to breed her with out POG male. I was wondering if there are markers i could look for to see if there is a chance that she is het.

    thanks
  • 12-26-2012, 06:46 PM
    MisterKyte
    I've heard people say to look for extra blushing but personally, I think that's kind of BS. The best markers are the word of your breeder and proving it out over looking for small markings which can really mean anything in some snakes.
  • 12-26-2012, 09:00 PM
    RandyRemington
    Years ago I bought a het hypo male. He was unusually bright and clean (very little dark in the lighter pattern elements). When I bred him to a normal exactly half the clutch looked like him. Unfortunately only one of the bright/clean ones was female but I held her back and sure enough she proved. I also proved a cinnamon male that was possible het hypo picked for light color and faded head. Recently I bought a known double het hypo clown male and he is also light with a faded head. IMHO hypo has nearly as much of a co-dominant tendency as pied. I even saw some hets that shed clear like hypos once. The hets are often (though presumably not always) half way between normal and hypo in appearance.
  • 12-26-2012, 09:10 PM
    RobNJ
    Re: markers for het hypo??
    I hatched out over 20 het hypos this year and every one had a faded head or head spot. The normals all had nearly identical head spots.
  • 12-27-2012, 12:32 PM
    jesst
    i dont notice a faded head but here is a pick of her....she is supposed to be het hypo

    http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2320c344.jpg

    she is currently in shed so i will see what her shed skin looks like...
  • 12-27-2012, 01:43 PM
    snakesRkewl
    It's not about markers with het hypos, it's all about the color change and adding flames/blushing to whatever it touches.
    Can you say for a fact a snake is a het hypo just by looking at it, not if you don't know where it came from.

    We bred a black pastel 100% het hypo X a normal and produced this black pastel 50% pos het hypo
    http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...l/IMG_0411.jpg
    http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...l/IMG_0345.jpg

    There's little doubt this male will prove out as a 100% het hypo, he's more orange than some hypo black pastels I've seen :P
    Naysayers will be naysayers, but everything a het gene touches it effects, no different than breeding a visual het(pastel, etc).

    We also bred the black pastel 100% het hypo to an albino and produced some super nice black pastel 100% het albino 50% pos het hypo's ...

    Some turned out very orange in color
    http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...inoclutch2.jpg
    http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...inoclutch3.jpg

    some turned out much like any other dark black pastel
    http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...inoclutch8.jpg

    Taking a snake that has an unknown history and trying to apply het to it just by looks alone isn't something I even bother trying to do.

    The snake your holding definitely has the het hypo look ;)
  • 12-27-2012, 01:59 PM
    jesst
    Re: markers for het hypo??
    wow your snakes look amazing! thanks for the info. we are completely new to all of this. :D
  • 12-29-2012, 06:47 PM
    jesst
    she shed yesterday and most of her shed skin was clear except 2 little spots there were dark......
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