ok, now im sad

so as much as i love working with bp's. My faith in the market has gone to crap. A few months ago when i was looking at CG's they were 22-23 K for males. Now im seeing them at 17-18K so how within the same season can they drop 5 grand...what will they be at next season!?! Im upset because bp's is what i love the most but with the way this trend is going theres no way i feel good about spending money on them...well crap:rage::tears:

Welcome to America, 2012. People have a hard enough time paying mortgages, utility bills, tuition...hell, even putting gas in their cars to get to work. Don't blame me, I voted Romney. :salute:

Bring on the affordable snakes!!! I'm sure, no, CERTAIN I'm not alone. Do you really LOVE BP's or are they a cash-cow??? :twocents:

over priced from the get go imo

There is many thousands of combo's you can make and still make good money doing this.
Supply and demand still are queen and king in this hobby and the supply is rising and the demand is dropping ...

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

over priced from the get go imo

There is many thousands of combo's you can make and still make good money doing this.
Supply and demand still are queen and king in this hobby and the supply is rising and the demand is dropping ...

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Economics 101.

The market on super high ends will go away unless its the first year of a new desireable morph, some big breeders will trade stock at high cost. But for the general market, there is no snake worth more than 1-4 grand for your average breeder just getting started. IMO you'll get a much quicker return on investment in this day and age with a few $1k recessive morphs, then if you buy the next big single co-dom since it will breed out so fast. But then again, I'm still believing that Genetic Stripe balls and retics will make a come back ... my GS tic that I invested in will be here Wedensday:please:

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Originally Posted by JeRMz

Bring on the affordable snakes!!! I'm sure, no, CERTAIN I'm not alone. Do you really LOVE BP's or are they a cash-cow??? :twocents:

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Nothing wrong with trying to make a little money with a hobby. As for bringing on the affordable snakes, there are 100's of morphs and combos that are plenty affordable.

What seems to be spreading like a disease is the ill founded logic that "if a male black pastel costs $XX, and a female hypo costs$YY, then the cost of a black pastel hypo should only be the sum of the two ingredients."

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Originally Posted by RobNJ

Nothing wrong with trying to make a little money with a hobby. As for bringing on the affordable snakes, there are 100's of morphs and combos that are plenty affordable.

What seems to be spreading like a disease is the ill founded logic that "if a male black pastel costs $XX, and a female hypo costs$YY, then the cost of a black pastel hypo should only be the sum of the two ingredients."

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Of course there's nothing wrong with making money. My first snake will be approx. $200, possibly less. Listening to people complain about not receiving $25k for a paint-job is like nails on a chalkboard to me... My advice, look at the housing market, then look at your snakes.

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Originally Posted by Ridinandreptiles

so as much as i love working with bp's. My faith in the market has gone to crap. A few months ago when i was looking at CG's they were 22-23 K for males. Now im seeing them at 17-18K so how within the same season can they drop 5 grand...what will they be at next season!?! Im upset because bp's is what i love the most but with the way this trend is going theres no way i feel good about spending money on them...well crap:rage::tears:

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You can still make money. Buy a CG male and put him to 10 females. I'll be conservative and say only 6 females lay for you. Then statistically half of those babies should be CG if theyre all normal females. (If you have morph females thats even better). So thats close to like 20 baby CG's. You paid $18K for yours. Sell each of those babies for $15K and you're gunna make money.

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

You can still make money. Buy a CG male and put him to 10 females. I'll be conservative and say only 6 females lay for you. Then statistically half of those babies should be CG if theyre all normal females. (If you have morph females thats even better). So thats close to like 20 baby CG's. You paid $18K for yours. Sell each of those babies for $15K and you're gunna make money.

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very true mike, but i look at it like this. I's looking at a ghi because male CG are way too expensive. So, ghi's seem to be in a high demand for the most part but there is an okay supply. Lets figure they sell for 2 grand next year which i think is quite plausible. You pair this animal to 6 normals only 4 of them go. You get 5 eggs from each and 2 are GHI. That's 8 of 'em. You sell a quarter right of the get go and make 4 grand. Well so many people have them that now they sell for a grand and you get rid of the rest. Now, you've broken even. Not including maintenance costs. that's not bad, thats all i really want plus i will be pairing these animals to morphs. I agree with Jerry that it is all supply and demand but i don't feel the market is so flooded that prices need to driven down to this degree