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  • 11-19-2012, 03:27 PM
    ER12
    H.R. 511 to be heard on 11/29
    U.S. House to hear HR 511 on Thursday, November 29, 2012 10:00 AM
    SUBCOMMITTEE ON FISHERIES, WILDLIFE, OCEANS AND INSULAR AFFAIRS
    1334 Longworth House Office Building
    Thursday, November 29, 2012
    10:00 a.m.
    http://naturalresources.house.gov/ca...EventID=312516
  • 11-19-2012, 03:42 PM
    Annarose15
    Now they're after retics, boas, and more...(again).
  • 11-19-2012, 03:43 PM
    Dragoon
    If this passes the house it will very likely be signed into law. I hope everyone writes heir reps
  • 11-19-2012, 03:52 PM
    3skulls
    This is such BS.
  • 11-19-2012, 04:58 PM
    ER12
    Re: H.R. 511 to be heard on 11/29
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dragoon View Post
    If this passes the house it will very likely be signed into law. I hope everyone writes heir reps

    This is not quite how the legislative process works. Should 511 be passed out of the house, it must then go before an assigned Senate committee, and if passed out of there, would then be sent back to both the Senate and House for final consideration and/or to reconcile any differences made between the House and the Senate before the president acts on it. HR 511 still has several hurdles to go through before it can be signed into law.
  • 11-19-2012, 05:05 PM
    wolfy-hound
    Yes, because everyone writing their reps worked so well in the past. Sorry to be a downer, but Congress doesn't give a flying monkey poop what WE want or what's best for the people.

    Some folks said last time that the only reason that they ONLY banned the few species was to get around that rule about XX amount of economic impact. Now they're going to continue to add more species in.

    And I talked to one of my reps who assured me that he was totally against the last one, that it was way over-reaching the original purpose of the department, etc etc. Then he ended up voting to pass it anyway.

    I don't really know if I have it in me to bother anymore. This last election process just seems to have brought home to me that none of Congress(Senate, Democrat Republican ANY of them) care WHAT we want or think.

    First, they'll ban some more species, next year it'll just be a blanket "pythons" or "constrictor snakes" and then it'll be another "reptiles" and then other exotics until they start in on dogs and cats eventually.
  • 11-20-2012, 09:15 PM
    reptileexperts
    eventually? certain dog breeds are already classified as dangerous by many city ordiances and not allowed within the confines of the city limits. But I agree, they have a lot of hurdles to get through even after it passes the house. It will still need a majority vote, and if people know the realism behind how much economic impact banning just Boas and Retics will have, only a fool would do that to the economy. . . but then again . . . look what's going on in washington :-/. As soon as this starts making headway, its back to ordering more morph of retics for me.. . get them while I can get them into Texas.
  • 11-20-2012, 09:17 PM
    reptileexperts
    and my two cens - I think the Boa Constrictor blanket will keep it from passing . . . there is nothing backing up that these are invasive animals other than a small population in Florida that has had zero ecological impacts documented.
  • 11-20-2012, 09:37 PM
    wendhend
    Re: H.R. 511 to be heard on 11/29
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by reptileexperts View Post
    and my two cens - I think the Boa Constrictor blanket will keep it from passing . . . there is nothing backing up that these are invasive animals other than a small population in Florida that has had zero ecological impacts documented.

    Let's hope! Boas are the most amazing pets, and I think it would be really devastating to a lot of us to see them end up on the Lacey Act.
  • 11-20-2012, 09:45 PM
    arialmt
    Being kind of a noob, I'm confused about H.R. 511's effect on the captive bred market. Please point me in the right direction.
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