What morph is tis ??

A fren of mine got hold of this beauty today.....He was told she is the offspring of a Killerbee x Pastel.
This lady started off her life as a pastel (or so my fren was informed by the seller) and after numerous shed, became what she is as of present. She is currently 1200 - 1300g. I would definitely luv to classify her as Axanthic but seller says she is definitely not....If the seller is telling the truth, a quick check on the Genetic Wizard for KB x pastel reaps the following;

Percent	Fraction	Morph
25%	1/4	Pastel
25%	1/4	Super Pastel
25%	1/4	Bumble Bee
25%	1/4	Killer Bee

Question now is, what exactly is she ?? I hail from a country where ball pythons as pets are well........very very rare....hence not much reference from my end. Any kind soul care to shed some light ?? Tks in advance

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If it started as pastel, then it most likely has IMG traits somewhere.. From what I've read, it's random, non genetic(in the common sense of the term (rescessive/co-dom/dom..) and will eventually return to her normal pastel coloration.. But I could also be wrong and over looking a key bit of info.. After all it's 5 AM here..
http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/co...all_python.asp

I'm thinking it looks like a super pastel that's really really light/faded, but I agree with Sand; there's probably something more going on. I don't know if it's necessarily IMG specifically but I would not be surprised if it was something.

Try breeding it and see if you get similar offspring! :D

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Originally Posted by Sand

If it started as pastel, then it most likely has IMG traits somewhere.. From what I've read, it's random, non genetic(in the common sense of the term (rescessive/co-dom/dom..) and will eventually return to her normal pastel coloration.. But I could also be wrong and over looking a key bit of info.. After all it's 5 AM here..
http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/co...all_python.asp

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Interestin read. Tks for the link. But the article mentioned the specimen w IMG wil grow darker but tis gal is losing its yellow and its dorsal stripe is also lightening....am I missing something here ??

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Originally Posted by het

Interestin read. Tks for the link. But the article mentioned the specimen w IMG wil grow darker but tis gal is losing its yellow and its dorsal stripe is also lightening....am I missing something here ??

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I thought IMG was genetic. I've seen a few IMG animals. They don't start to get lighter till the 500g range. then is like someone sucked all the color out of the snake!

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Originally Posted by BP2

I thought IMG was genetic. I've seen a few IMG animals. They don't start to get lighter till the 500g range. then is like someone sucked all the color out of the snake!

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That being said my guess is Pastel IMG. Breed her and see what you get! Also try and find photos of her as a baby its hard to tell if she is a super or just a pastel with how light she is.

She definitely has the traits of the IMG but look at all that beautiful blushing!

Doesn't look axanthic.
It looks exactly what the seller said it was. A pastel (maybe even a super pastel with that blushed head) with pigment loss.
Some snakes just loose their coloring randomly in their life.
Sometimes it's a nutrition related, hormone issue, and other times it's just a shed issue (When the new skin doesn't develop correctly under the old skin. Think ink cartridge running out of ink)

Most dramatic pigment change in snakes (especially females) is due to hormones.
Whatever it is, these snakes usually always return back to their original color.

People use the term IMG to describe the pigment loss in some ball pythons. Don't ask me why but they do. It is actually a wrong term, as IMG is increasing melanin while this strange occurrence is losing melanin. This snake does look like it could be a pastel that has lost its color. So far, to my knowledge, all ball pythons that have done this do eventually get their color back after a few years. No one knows why this happens, but it is speculated that it could be some type of nutritional deficiency or stress. It does not seem to be genetic.

Tks yall for all ur inputs.....