Fatal/Lethal breedings

So I was watching the NERD video on this subject. Are the only ones

HGWoma to HGWoma
Champaign to spider
Champaign to champaign
And they mentioned
Sable to spider is bad too

Is there anything more that can be fatal




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There are also a few that are not lethal, but can cause some problems for the babies. Super black plasters/super cinnies, super lessors/butters, caramel albinos,

Female deserts should not be bred as they can become gravid but are not able to pass eggs and will become egg-bound and subsequently die (or at least that is how I understand it).

Isn't spider x spider lethal? Maybe I read that wrong somewhere...

I thought I read spider x spider..?

Jag x Jag in carpets, the BELs don't make it.

Sable x Spider is supposedly lethal but Cold Blooded Addiction has been able to breed a butter spider x sable. Check out http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=183491

The first pic is a butter sable spider. There's also a pic of a sable spider in that thread as well. Keep your eyes peeled on an updated thread on their status!

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Originally Posted by ktaylor89

Isn't spider x spider lethal? Maybe I read that wrong somewhere...

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The video cover spider and spider. The NERD team said they produced many spiders and spiders over and over. They assured it wasn't lethal in anyway


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Sable x Spider is supposedly lethal but Cold Blooded Addiction has been able to breed a butter spider x sable. Check out http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=183491

The first pic is a butter sable spider. There's also a pic of a sable spider in that thread as well. Keep your eyes peeled on an updated thread on their status!

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I know when he said that all I could think is that coldbloodedaddiction produced a sable butter spider and it appears fine. They said that that gene in general has problems and shouldn't be mixed. But they did have a sable spider that was pretty big. But he said it has its problems. I don't know :/


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Originally Posted by Solarsoldier001

The video cover spider and spider. The NERD team said they produced many spiders and spiders over and over. They assured it wasn't lethal in anyway


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Gotchya! Thanks for clarifying. So is there just not a super spider? Maybe that's what it was saying?

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Originally Posted by ktaylor89

Gotchya! Thanks for clarifying. So is there just not a super spider? Maybe that's what it was saying?

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Correct; there is no visual difference between a heterozygous spider and a homozygous spider.