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Zoo Med UTH question?

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  • 10-31-2012, 09:42 AM
    MrBrute
    Zoo Med UTH question?
    Ok so I'm going to buy me a nice ole sterilite tub today from wally world and was wondering....will this be ok to use? I was told long ago to put foil over the pad, just incase i wanted to use it on another tub/tank in the future. Because I know once you stick it to something, you can't take it off. So suggestions?
  • 10-31-2012, 09:54 AM
    Kaorte
    As long as you have a thermostat controlling the heat mat you are fine.

    You don't have to put foil on it, you can just leave the coating on the adhesive.
  • 10-31-2012, 10:00 AM
    MrBrute
    Re: Zoo Med UTH question?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    As long as you have a thermostat controlling the heat mat you are fine.

    You don't have to put foil on it, you can just leave the coating on the adhesive.

    so...so what thermostate do you suggest?
  • 10-31-2012, 10:03 AM
    The Serpent Merchant
    A Zoo-med UTH will be fine, but must be regulated by a thermostat and monitered with a probed thermometer. Without a thermostat the UTH can and will get hot enough to kill your snake, and could even melt the tub.

    Stay away from thermostats sold in petstores as they are overpriced junk.

    Here are 3 good thermostats depending on your budget:

    Cheap: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000NZZG3S

    Mid-Range: http://www.reptilebasics.com/ranco-etc-111000-pre-wired

    Best: http://spyderrobotics.com/home/products.html

    Here is a good thermometer. It can be purchased at Walmart for $12. It has 2 temperature sensors as well as a humidity sensor. Simply place the probe on the hot side directly over the UTH and place the unit on the cool side.

    http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/...nt/photo-3.jpg

    Putting foil over the sticky side of the UTH is a good idea.

    Remember that UTH's don't heat the air in the cage all that much. This means that if the room the cage is in gets too much below 75 degrees a secondary heat source (like a space heater or heat lamp) will be necessary.
  • 10-31-2012, 10:08 AM
    MrBrute
    Re: Zoo Med UTH question?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant View Post
    A Zoo-med UTH will be fine, but must be regulated by a thermostat and monitered with a probed thermometer. Without a thermostat the UTH can and will get hot enough to kill your snake, and could even melt the tub.

    Stay away from thermostats sold in petstores as they are overpriced junk.

    Here are 3 good thermostats depending on your budget:

    Cheap: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000NZZG3S

    Mid-Range: http://www.reptilebasics.com/ranco-etc-111000-pre-wired

    Best: http://spyderrobotics.com/home/products.html

    Here is a good thermometer. It can be purchased at Walmart for $12. It has 2 temperature sensors as well as a humidity sensor. Simply place the probe on the hot side directly over the UTH and place the unit on the cool side.

    http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/...nt/photo-3.jpg

    Putting foil over the sticky side of the UTH is a good idea.

    Remember that UTH's don't heat the air in the cage all that much. This means that if the room the cage is in gets too much below 75 degrees a secondary heat source (like a space heater or heat lamp) will be necessary.

    so what brand UTH do you suggest? Thanks!

    - - - Updated - - -

    I was looking to get this

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Zoo-Med-Rept...10969735433%26

    - - - Updated - - -

    This is what I use now on one of my tanks. Would this work also?

    http://www.bigappleherp.com/Big-Appl...=2&category=14
  • 10-31-2012, 10:09 AM
    kitedemon
    Personally with a single tub as it has no mass I would not suggest a on/off that makes the spyder robotics as the clear option. The best UTH I have ever used is the ultratherm as they bring a extra safety due to the low max temps.
  • 10-31-2012, 10:12 AM
    The Serpent Merchant
    Re: Zoo Med UTH question?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MrBrute View Post
    so what brand UTH do you suggest? Thanks!

    - - - Updated - - -

    I was looking to get this

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Zoo-Med-Rept...10969735433%26

    - - - Updated - - -

    This is what I use now on one of my tanks. Would this work also?

    http://www.bigappleherp.com/Big-Appl...=2&category=14

    I would get one of these and one of the 3 thermostats I suggested in my last post:

    http://m.petsmart.com/mt/www.petsmar...AvailInUS%2FNo
  • 10-31-2012, 10:15 AM
    MrBrute
    Re: Zoo Med UTH question?
    thanks
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kitedemon View Post
    Personally with a single tub as it has no mass I would not suggest a on/off that makes the spyder robotics as the clear option. The best UTH I have ever used is the ultratherm as they bring a extra safety due to the low max temps.

  • 10-31-2012, 12:12 PM
    kitedemon
    The link to the variable temp mat that should also work I have never used one but the Idea is sound it is likely a step resistor so you can set the wattage to allow the T-stat to deliver correct temps but choosing a setting that will keep a 'run a way' inside a safe level. The Ultratherm is similar, intellitemp, kane also do not become super hot usually 10-20ºF over the room temp. I have a couple of zoo meds and exoterra I don't like the exos at all. The zoo meds I have I am in the process of replacing with lower heating units. Things can and do go wrong having a heater that is simply not going to get hot enough to cause burns under any circumstances increases the safety level dramatically. The 'new breed ' of UTH many have this feature the old school types (zoo med) do not. It seems a good idea to increase the level of safety as much as is feasible.
  • 10-31-2012, 12:14 PM
    MrBrute
    Re: Zoo Med UTH question?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kitedemon View Post
    The link to the variable temp mat that should also work I have never used one but the Idea is sound it is likely a step resistor so you can set the wattage to allow the T-stat to deliver correct temps but choosing a setting that will keep a 'run a way' inside a safe level. The Ultratherm is similar, intellitemp, kane also do not become super hot usually 10-20ºF over the room temp. I have a couple of zoo meds and exoterra I don't like the exos at all. The zoo meds I have I am in the process of replacing with lower heating units. Things can and do go wrong having a heater that is simply not going to get hot enough to cause burns under any circumstances increases the safety level dramatically. The 'new breed ' of UTH many have this feature the old school types (zoo med) do not. It seems a good idea to increase the level of safety as much as is feasible.

    Thanks!
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