Another panda pied post lol

Hey all,

WOBP just posted this on facebook

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...cinnamon-pied/


What do you think?

Disappointing

No, it's not what we were hoping for... but it looks like it might color up some. Like it's not going to be completely clean white. I'll be interested to see it in a few sheds.

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(Someone needs to take one of these and quick breed it to an enchi pied already. So we can find out once and for all if the enchi gene will help or not.)

I thought it was known that the super Cinny pied is all white. The super black pastel gives you the panda.

Please don't quote me on this I could be way out in left field. Other rumor is original panda may not be a super at all.

^x2 i agree, i thought the panda was super black pastel pied also. altought that snake is nice i would of expected something different.

The Panda is supposedly a Super Black Pastel Pied. Not a super cinny pied. Two different genes, two different combos, two different looks....... The label is misleading and wrong imo....

And there have been speculation that the Panda might not even be a Super Black Pied too. Just a super extreme ringer.

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Originally Posted by joebad976

I thought it was known that the super Cinny pied is all white. The super black pastel gives you the panda.

Please don't quote me on this I could be way out in left field. Other rumor is original panda may not be a super at all.

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Yeah, it was sorta known that super cinny pied would almost certainly produce all white. Both cinny and black pastel produce high white, reduced-pattern pieds, but cinny seems to be more extreme about it.

Last I checked the jury was still out on the panda actually being a super black pastel pied. There's certainly been some questions about her either being a het pied or having another gene involved... I don't think we'll know until she's been bred and the genetics proven out? And I haven't heard about her being bred, anybody know differently?

Calling a super cinny pied a "panda" also kinda goes both way. A lot of people understand it to ONLY mean super black pastel pied.... but if the original panda isn't actually that, then what have we got? And obviously super cinny doesn't produce a panda-looking snake... so if the breeder wants to call it something else entirely, I'm down with that.

I have to say, that is super disappointing! I wanted to make one of these down the road but I guess that won't be happening after all.

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Originally Posted by loonunit

No, it's not what we were hoping for... but it looks like it might color up some. Like it's not going to be completely clean white. I'll be interested to see it in a few sheds.

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(Someone needs to take one of these and quick breed it to an enchi pied already. So we can find out once and for all if the enchi gene will help or not.)

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I'm already on it. Breeding my first Pewter Pied female to my Enchi pos het Pied male. Cross your fingers!