Black Pastel or Cinnamon?

So I hatched these two from the same clutch. Both females... I have my guesses on what they are. Just want some other opinions.

Are they black pastel or cinnamon? If one of each, which is what?

Thanks!

Snake 1
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...0/dscn0462.jpg
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...0/dscn0463.jpg
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...0/dscn0375.jpg



Snake 2
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...0/dscn0466.jpg
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...0/dscn0465.jpg
http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...0/dscn0461.jpg

I see two Cinnys personally

I'm no good at identifying black pastels, but I agree with the above poster, two cinnies.

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My gut say Cinnamons...

I vote cinnys on both. Top one almost could pass for a black pastel, but the belly still looks like a cinny.

I'm going with Cinny for both also.

The first one looks like a cinny to me.

The second one looks more like a black pastel to me. The reason it looks black pastel to me is the color doesn't look quite right for a cinny, it looks darker but the fact that it's a black back could be throwing me off, and there seems to be a lack of floating alien heads. What makes me think it might be a cinny is that the pattern isn't as busy as black pastels I've seen in the past.

Both are Cinnies :D

Both are cinnies!!!

I'm amazed at how different they look, even though they are from the same clutch! The pairing was Cinny x Normal... Just wanted to see how many guessed black pastel. Can't fool you guys!