Sugar/Pinstripe

Seems I'm full of questions today.

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...gar-pinstripe/

Am I not seeing the sugar here because the snake is still young and thus the spots that would likely be white are still pink/orange?

I'm seeing it.
It totally discolored the pinstripe and changed the pattern. The pattern is less uniform and more 'unorganized'. Overall, a less defined pin pattern.
Sugars tend to have a connected pattern of alien heads. I can see it on the sides of the pins posted.

That looks like it is going to be so amazingly awesome as it ages!!!

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Originally Posted by satomi325

I'm seeing it.
It totally discolored the pinstripe and changed the pattern. The pattern is less uniform and more 'unorganized'. Overall, a less defined pin pattern.
Sugars tend to have a connected pattern of alien heads. I can see it on the sides of the pins posted.

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Got it!

I'm seeing the disturbed pin pattern with the elongated alien heads, ala a regular sugar.

What I don't see is the white on the sides of a regular sugar. Hence me thinking that the pink might turn more white. That possible?

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Originally Posted by BWyant

Got it!

I'm seeing the disturbed pin pattern with the elongated alien heads, ala a regular sugar.

What I don't see is the white on the sides of a regular sugar. Hence me thinking that the pink might turn more white. That possible?

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I think the pink will turn white. Some Spider Calicos look pink initially, but turn white.
But it could just be a low white example too. Or perhaps the white just doesn't show up on the snake?
I think more have to be produced to come to a conclusion.

It reminds me of a genetic stripe kinda..

Anybody feel the itch to show off your sugar?

Hi!

My Wife and me bred the Sugar-Pins that are shown at WOBP :)

To answer all the Questions:

yup, it def. is a Sugar-Pin
It`s getting white Sides by the Time, just like the Sugar Spider/ ClaiBee. The sides are getting lighter Day by Day and both of the Babys show the typical orange Colour of the Original Sugar Line.
The pairing was a Rene Valentin Line Sugar Male to a Pinstripe Female
The Sugar totaly "destroys" the Pin Pattern, as some other Morphs do...
The Sugar we own is low white, but the Colour/Pattern of the Sugar doesen`t get to the Babys.. you can have high and low white babys from a low white Sugar and a high white can produce low whites only too.
We paired our Sugar to 2 of our Clown Females, and as strange as it sounds (babys are still in the Eggs) they show a Clown Pattern on the Head o_O. Our Sugar is def. not HET Clown, because he is out of a Pastel Sugar to Fire Pairing, so Sugar def. do some strange stuff to Patterns ;)

Here is a Picture our Sugar Male:

http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...61328104_n.jpg

and one of the Sugar Babys:

http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...87644937_n.jpg


Sadly i haven`t seen any other Sugar Pin so far (only pastel sugar pin) and i can`t compare any to ours .....

I hope i could help you and sorry for my bad English, i know it sucks ;)

Cheers from Bavaria/Germany

Florian from Rockin Balls
http://www.facebook.com/RockinBalls

Post up some current pics of the kiddos. I imagine they will be stunners when the white really comes in!

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Originally Posted by jinx667

Post up some current pics of the kiddos. I imagine they will be stunners when the white really comes in!

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Gotta wait for 2 or 3 more sheds to get the white more visible, the Pictures have been taken right after the first Shed 3 weeks ago, so we will make some new Pictures very soon ;)
I keep you Guys updated wih new Pictures as soon as i have them.

Cheers
Florian