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  • 09-30-2012, 10:17 AM
    MorphMaster
    Problem shedding with newspaper?
    So I went to the vet yesterday because of these cuts on the underside of my snakes head. If curious look up random holes in snake head or whatever it's called. She then asked the regular q's: temps, humidity, bedding. So I said newspaper and paper towels because I'm done dealing with the issues wood could bring: mites, the issue I have right now, and for breeding hemipene abscesses. She said it should only be temporary because a snake can't shed on it. As long as humidity is up, the snakes can shed right?! I've seen too many people using it to believe otherwise. So I really want to know, por favor dime. Tell me idk I think that's the proper word for it lol
  • 09-30-2012, 11:14 AM
    kitedemon
    No snakes shed fine on paper products (my vet would have a kitten if you said paper towel however) The issue with paper is it is hygroscopic it absorbs water from the air and locks it into the paper. It in effect is a dehumidifier like silica gel and salt crystals. Paper will lower the RH because of this so that needs to be compensated for. There is a limit to the amount of water it absorbs so once that is reached it stops.
  • 09-30-2012, 11:45 AM
    MorphMaster
    Re: Problem shedding with newspaper?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kitedemon View Post
    No snakes shed fine on paper products (my vet would have a kitten if you said paper towel however) The issue with paper is it is hygroscopic it absorbs water from the air and locks it into the paper. It in effect is a dehumidifier like silica gel and salt crystals. Paper will lower the RH because of this so that needs to be compensated for. There is a limit to the amount of water it absorbs so once that is reached it stops.

    Do they need anything rough in there or is the shed all based on humidity?
  • 09-30-2012, 12:06 PM
    kitedemon
    In my experience it depends on the snake. I have some that seem to have trouble starting to peel it off if they have nothing but tub sides to rub against and some that have no issues. i will place a smooth is rock in with the ones that seem to need something. and remove it after the shed is over. It is easily disinfected after I just submerge in in water from a kettle (boiling or close it it) with f10sc 1:125 until it cools.
  • 09-30-2012, 12:24 PM
    MorphMaster
    Re: Problem shedding with newspaper?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kitedemon View Post
    In my experience it depends on the snake. I have some that seem to have trouble starting to peel it off if they have nothing but tub sides to rub against and some that have no issues. i will place a smooth is rock in with the ones that seem to need something. and remove it after the shed is over. It is easily disinfected after I just submerge in in water from a kettle (boiling or close it it) with f10sc 1:125 until it cools.

    That was extremely helpful... I appreciate it. 1 more question... I have a snake on oral baytril every 48 hours. If I have it scheduled to eat Saturday and it's treatment is Sunday, should I still feed it? And if so, would a smaller meal be recommended cuz I don't want her to recurve while to putting a syringe down her throat
  • 09-30-2012, 12:31 PM
    Dave Green
    I keep all my adults on newspaper and never have an issue. I have Venta airwashers humidifying the rooms, use large water bowls and I spray the back of the bins when the snakes are in shed. I live in the desert and still don't have an issue as long as I spray.
  • 09-30-2012, 12:32 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Been using newspaper for YEARS and don't have any problem, they generally shed in one piece, if they don't that means the humidity is lower than usual which is the case in the winter months.

    What important is to have proper humidity regardless of the substrate used. (Of course some hold humidity better than other too however newspaper is fine)
  • 09-30-2012, 12:58 PM
    snakesRkewl
    My snakes are on paper towels 24/7 from 40 grams to 4000 grams and they all shed complete one piece sheds.
    They do not need anything beyond the water bowl and the tub to get the shed off assuming the humidity is good.
  • 09-30-2012, 03:11 PM
    DooLittle
    Mine are in tubs, on papertowels, and shed fine. They can rub against the tub, or themselves. When I notice a shed coming, I move the water bowl over to the hot side over the flexwatt, and that brings humidity up enough.

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  • 09-30-2012, 04:01 PM
    kitedemon
    Re: Problem shedding with newspaper?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MorphMaster View Post
    That was extremely helpful... I appreciate it. 1 more question... I have a snake on oral baytril every 48 hours. If I have it scheduled to eat Saturday and it's treatment is Sunday, should I still feed it? And if so, would a smaller meal be recommended cuz I don't want her to recurve while to putting a syringe down her throat

    I have had a handful of animals on antibiotics often injected but the issue is the same. The three day drug cycle messes with feeding. I adjust feeding for just after the drugs I also give drugs in the morning, so say monday am drug, then feed tuesday pm and drugs again thursday am. I would just delay feeding until it fit in the drug cycle.

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