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Should I cut them now?

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  • 09-20-2012, 02:49 AM
    Lolo76
    Should I cut them now?
    So it's finally day 55 for my clutch from hell (see thread: http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...d-about-others), and at least a few have made it! Looks like I've got 4 good eggs, 1 iffy, and 3 that went bad... not exactly what I was hoping for, but better than losing the whole clutch.

    Anyway, now that it's the end of the line, I'm wondering if I should go ahead and cut them. I normally wait for the first one to pip, but I'm worried about a couple of things - mostly the moldy eggs stuck to 3 of the good eggs, and the fact that a couple of them are burying the good eggs. Is there any reason to worry they'll be affected by the mold, once they start to pip, and/or might they have trouble getting out? I was thinking about cutting the bad ones off, then slitting the good ones to give them a head-start. Is that a good idea, or should I just let nature take its course?
  • 09-20-2012, 04:43 AM
    melly911
    cut them, if you wanted to let nature take its course you would let the mom incubate them ;)
  • 09-20-2012, 04:52 AM
    Lolo76
    Re: Should I cut them now?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by melly911 View Post
    cut them, if you wanted to let nature take its course you would let the mom incubate them ;)

    Haha... touche. :P

    Guess I'm just nervous, since those bad eggs are really stuck on there - plus I'm afraid to see what's inside of them!
  • 09-20-2012, 04:55 AM
    melly911
    go ahead and cut em... and keep us updated. ive only had one clutch so far and i was to excited not to cut!
  • 09-20-2012, 06:54 AM
    Wicked Constrictors
    Can you take a photo of the eggs so we can see how bad they are? I just had my clutch hatch and i waited to i saw one pip on day 57 and i cut the others. Good luck.
  • 09-20-2012, 07:11 AM
    rafacacho
    Take the bad eggs off, just cut them and leave the part attached to the good ones, so you dont make a hole on the side of the good ones. And yes...cut the good ones, we want to see babies!!:D
  • 09-20-2012, 08:35 AM
    Lolo76
    So I tried to cut the bad ones, but they're really tough - so I gave up after a minute, and decided to try again later. I did cut the one separate egg, and it's a little spider! :) Hardly any goo left either, so I imagine he/she was about ready to pip anyway. Have to get some sleep now, and will post more later.

    Here's the clutch - bad three on top, other five are still looking good (even the part-moldy ones are showing veins).
    http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps884bfb81.jpg

    And here's my spider!
    http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...psfc7f7fb4.jpg

    Does anyone know what that white line is - just next to the fat vein?
    http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps53516ffb.jpg

    - - - Updated - - -

    P.S. When I cut into one of the bad eggs, this puff of moldy dust came out - and I could immediately feel my asthma kick in, since I'm allergic to mold. That's the other reason I've been afraid to cut through those. :(
  • 09-20-2012, 09:55 AM
    Foschi Exotic Serpents
    Next time you have a clutch, separate the eggs. Most will come apart easily if done right after laying.

    I recommend you use the substrate less method using vinyl cross stitch mesh and light diffuser grate. 100% humidity, no wet eggs, and look how plump my eggs always are right up until they pip! (I never cut until I see a pipper)
    You wouldn't lose any.

    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/20/ja5ugume.jpg

    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/20/ysegazuq.jpg

    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/20/qu8ybe6e.jpg
  • 09-20-2012, 03:18 PM
    irishanaconda
    I would agree with the above poster, looks like they went bad cause of low humidity IMO
  • 09-20-2012, 06:26 PM
    Lolo76
    Yes, that is what happened... you can read the full story in that link (in my first post), but basically I tried going substrate-less and didn't realize my Acu-Rite was incorrectly measuring it at 99%. By the time I realized that was inaccurate, they had already collapsed! I then switched to using the substrate, at the suggestion of a few people here, and that just turned my collapsed eggs into moldy eggs. It was an all-around bad clutch, but you live and learn - right? At least I've got some good ones left, and I'm anxious to see that pretty little spider out of his egg. :)

    - - - Updated - - -

    P.S. Next year I'm either going to spring for a GOOD incubator, or having them incubated at the vivarium (if it's only 1-2 clutches)... the Little Giant worked fine with my smaller clutch last year, but just didn't work for this larger clutch. Now I don't trust it!
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