Pewter Poss Het Pied Clutch! (Hold back, or not?)

Just hatched 5 eggs from a pewter x 100% het pied pairing. I used a 2008 het pied male because my visual pied male was a teensy tiny 2009, and he already seemed confused about the other two pairings I had him in. I didn't have a lot invested in this clutch, it was just something to do with the pewter.

....and then they hatched. This clutch was SO MUCH FUN.

1.0 normal, 1.1 pastel, 0.1 cinny, and 0.1 pewter. Everyone is 50% poss het pied:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/--...0/IMG_5837.JPG

Of course, everyone show clear het markers except the pewter girl. But she does look stripey and faded, in a way the adult pewter dame doesn't. What do you think, is the new girl het or not? Should I hold her back for an urban camo project, or sell her?

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Y...0/IMG_5839.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-w...0/IMG_5852.JPG

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Congrats! The pied gene does amazing things to cinnies and black pastels.
Im not saying she is a het pied, but many 100% het pied pewters have that fading.
Out of the entire clutch, I would hold her back personally. The signs are pretty good.

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The rest of the babies.

1.0 pastel poss het pied. The markers are weak, but he's got that pied neck marking. And he's a sweet black-back. Thinking about holding him back long enough to try for a pastel pied next year:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-J...0/IMG_5854.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-T...0/IMG_5855.JPG

0.1 cinny poss het pied. A bit of ringer:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Y...0/IMG_5856.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-R...0/IMG_5860.JPG

0.1 pastel het pied. Also a hint of ringer. But I already have a nicer pastel 100% pied female:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3...0/IMG_5862.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-B...0/IMG_5863.JPG

1.0 normal poss het pied:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-P...0/IMG_5865.JPG

I dunno, they ALL kinda look like hets to me. But markers aren't reliable, and the odds are against it...

I would definitely hold on to that pewter :gj: Even if it turns out not het, she's a sexy beast. I would also hold back the boy pastel, pretty boy and you've got the pastel het pied girlfriend already :)

Unfortunately, the pastel 100% pied girl I'm holding back is also from a clutch that hatched this year. So she's got some growing to do.

But I have got several unrelated pied females.... Pastel het pied x pied is pretty good odds (if he's actually het).

beautiful! hold her back!

They look good I love that pewter! Forgive me but what is the neck marker for pieds??

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Originally Posted by Andybill

They look good I love that pewter! Forgive me but what is the neck marker for pieds??

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Oh, the way the neck pattern joins up to to the head stripes. Very common in pieds, very unusual in normals. I think RDR held back a poss het with that joined-up neck pattern on the assumption it was het pied? But I don't know if it proved out or not. It's much rarer than the railroad stripes on the belly, so I don't know if it's reliable at all.

Def keep her shes gorgeous :gj: If you prove her out she would be a goldmine to boot!

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Originally Posted by oskyle1567

Def keep her shes gorgeous :gj: If you prove her out she would be a goldmine to boot!

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Yeah, it's just a whole lot of rodents to prove her out...

...okay, fine. Y'all talked me into it. She stays.