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Butter Daddy Clutch

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  • 08-20-2012, 11:10 PM
    fatSNAKEs
    Butter Daddy Clutch
    Clutch from Butter Daddy x Butter. Six eggs, only one Butter Daddy this year but two BEL Super Lessers ... all three males. And three normals, het for Platty. Still good looking group.

    http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/...g182012004.jpg

    1.0 Butter Daddy
    http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/...tterDaddyM.jpg

    2.0 Super Lessers
    http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/...s/BELpairM.jpg
  • 08-20-2012, 11:13 PM
    h00blah
    Newb question:
    What are the genetics behind the "Daddy"?
  • 08-20-2012, 11:44 PM
    wwmjkd
    Re: Butter Daddy Clutch
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by h00blah View Post
    Newb question:
    What are the genetics behind the "Daddy"?

    I'm not going to do this justice, but to the best of my understanding, Ralph Davis imported a new morph that we now call the platinum/platty daddy. when he bred it to a normal female, he had an entire clutch of normal looking snakes and other offspring that strongly resembled the sire, but not exactly. these latter snakes he called lesser platinums. the normal-looking offspring from a full platinum male were 'het' for platinum/platty daddy. if you breed this normal-looking 'het' for platinum snake to virtually anything else in the BEL complex, you will produce the full 'platinum' version of that BEL morph. in this case, it's a butter daddy. but really the same thing in my opinion. it looks like the OP put a platinum to a lesser/butter and wound up with a mix of all three possible outcomes.

    hope that made some sense. others have explained it far better in the past if you search some older threads.
  • 08-20-2012, 11:47 PM
    decensored
    man that butter daddy is wild!
  • 08-21-2012, 12:03 AM
    Andybill
    Awesome! That butter daddy looks pretty cool!
  • 08-21-2012, 05:49 PM
    fatSNAKEs
    Re: Butter Daddy Clutch
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wwmjkd View Post
    I'm not going to do this justice, but to the best of my understanding, Ralph Davis imported a new morph that we now call the platinum/platty daddy. when he bred it to a normal female, he had an entire clutch of normal looking snakes and other offspring that strongly resembled the sire, but not exactly. these latter snakes he called lesser platinums. the normal-looking offspring from a full platinum male were 'het' for platinum/platty daddy. if you breed this normal-looking 'het' for platinum snake to virtually anything else in the BEL complex, you will produce the full 'platinum' version of that BEL morph. in this case, it's a butter daddy. but really the same thing in my opinion. it looks like the OP put a platinum to a lesser/butter and wound up with a mix of all three possible outcomes.

    hope that made some sense. others have explained it far better in the past if you search some older threads.

    Actually good explanation, thanks! The "platty gene" is peculiar, acts like a simple recessive. So tricky and time consuming to work across other morphs. I've only bred my B/D female the last two seasons against a Butter male. However this coming year I plan to breed her with a smoking hot Butterbee male I acquired over a year ago. Hoping to produce a "Butter Daddy Bee", could be awesome. A mature Butter Daddy has really stunning colors, here's a holdback female from last year:
    http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/...s/BDfemale.jpg

    Appreciate all the feedback!
  • 08-21-2012, 06:06 PM
    Mike41793
    Almost looks like a butter ghost. Very cool stuff!
  • 08-22-2012, 07:59 AM
    wwmjkd
    Re: Butter Daddy Clutch
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by fatSNAKEs View Post
    Actually good explanation, thanks! The "platty gene" is peculiar, acts like a simple recessive. So tricky and time consuming to work across other morphs. I've only bred my B/D female the last two seasons against a Butter male. However this coming year I plan to breed her with a smoking hot Butterbee male I acquired over a year ago. Hoping to produce a "Butter Daddy Bee", could be awesome. A mature Butter Daddy has really stunning colors, here's a holdback female from last year:
    http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/...s/BDfemale.jpg

    Appreciate all the feedback!

    you really don't see too many of these around, I'm guessing due to both the limited availability and time investment. but they really do pay off in dividends. that's a spectacular holdback. any chance you could post a picture of the dam from this clutch as well?
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