ID help please

i got these guys from a guy down the road from me. what do you think? male (pic 1 ) and female ( pic 2 ).
the guy i got them from did not know what they were.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...kyp0/male1.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...yp0/female.jpg

Normals with fair amount of golds and yellows.

going on this (NORMAL http://www.royalpythonranch.com/normal.php

Normal ball pythons have many variations. Normal ball pythons have a lot of side patterning and the blotches have one or two spots within them. Normal ball pythons generally have dark striping in either black or dark brown with lighter brown or earth tone side markings. A normal ball python has a brown head, often with some blushing in the center of the top of their head. On each side of the head there is a stripe. Normal ball pythons can have dark eyes, making it difficult to see the pupil.)

the male does not fit in this. the female ya i can see that.

The male is just a nice reduced pattern normal. :)

Normals I believe

with me being on my phone the screen is small but it looks like the male could be one of those fooling pastels it looks like it has yellow coloring but browning out already with green eyes? anf all white lips whats the belly look like?

Look like nice reduced pattern normals to me.

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I see normals. The male is reduced and extremely attractive.

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Originally Posted by nickyp0

i got these guys from a guy down the road from me. what do you think? male (pic 1 ) and female ( pic 2 ).
the guy i got them from did not know what they were.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...kyp0/male1.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...yp0/female.jpg

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Post belly pics if u can..

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here is a belly pic of the male.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...0/365dbb6a.jpg