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Is it a Tiger?

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  • 08-05-2012, 06:09 PM
    VengefulSakhmet
    Is it a Tiger?
    My husband and I just rescued a ball python today. The owners couldn't care for it any longer and I was a bit saddened to see the conditions it was living in. I'm just happy to have the sweetie back home with us and hope the shed it appears to be in goes a little better than I'm betting it will. The cage it was living in was filled with pieces of old shed, so I sort of doubt that it will have a nice one piece shed. And a bit after the shed we're hoping to probe it and finally name it appropriately. We were told it was a Tiger morph, but I just wanted to get your opinions seeing I really haven't seen too many. Keep in mind the baby is in shed and I didn't want to bug it too much seeing we just traveled home for over an hour in this nasty heat wave. He also for some reason decided he was in love with the dog's stairs. Better for shooting than on my arm I guess.

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  • 08-05-2012, 06:11 PM
    Mike41793
    Tiger is an enchi desert i believe. I see neither enchi nor desert in that snake. Looks like a normal to me.
    Hopefully you didnt pay too much for it :/
  • 08-05-2012, 06:17 PM
    satomi325
    Tiger is the old school name for genetic reduced normal. Unless that snake produces other reduced offspring, its probably not a tiger. Just a really nice reduced normal.

    (Desert)Tiger these days = Desert Enchi, which is a completely different morph

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  • 08-05-2012, 06:53 PM
    VengefulSakhmet
    Re: Is it a Tiger?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by satomi325 View Post
    Tiger is the old school name for genetic reduced normal. Unless that snake produces other reduced offspring, its probably not a tiger. Just a really nice reduced normal.

    (Desert)Tiger these days = Desert Enchi, which is a completely different morph

    Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2

    Thanks for the info. I didn't think the couple lied about what they were told when they purchased the snake, but it didn't look like the Tigers I found on Google images. Either way, we didn't spend a dime aside from getting new housing for it and the python is super sweet.
  • 08-05-2012, 07:01 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: Is it a Tiger?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike41793 View Post
    Tiger is an enchi desert i believe. I see neither enchi nor desert in that snake. Looks like a normal to me.
    Hopefully you didnt pay too much for it :/

    Actually long before the now known Tiger (Enchi Desert) there was the Tiger ;)

    Tiger is one of several reduce pattern genetic banded out there.

    Is this genetic or not? No way to know until the animal is bred and since some are recessive it can take a while to prove out and being it's a normal, I am not sure it worth the effort.
  • 08-05-2012, 07:21 PM
    VengefulSakhmet
    Re: Is it a Tiger?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
    Actually long before the now known Tiger (Enchi Desert) there was the Tiger ;)

    Tiger is one of several reduce pattern genetic banded out there.

    Is this genetic or not? No way to know until the animal is bred and since some are recessive it can take a while to prove out and being it's a normal, I am not sure it worth the effort.

    The owner said it was a designer morph Tiger, so I'm assuming it should be genetic. I plan on probing after he/she has shed and settled down a bit, so if it turns out to be a girl I might just check the genetics through breeding to one of my males next year. Otherwise, I have a super sweet python who will just make a nice pet.

    Thanks for the info.
  • 08-06-2012, 09:52 AM
    Izzys Keeper
    Even if its pattern is genetic, i dont think it is spectacular enough to warrant breding it to another normal. Dont get me wrong, its gorgeous but it doesnt stand out enough imo to try to breed it out if its male. Females are always handy though
  • 08-06-2012, 10:11 AM
    TheSnakeEye
    Re: Is it a Tiger?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Izzys Keeper View Post
    Even if its pattern is genetic, i dont think it is spectacular enough to warrant breding it to another normal. Dont get me wrong, its gorgeous but it doesnt stand out enough imo to try to breed it out if its male. Females are always handy though

    Unless you want to breed it anyway simply because you enjoy it and not because you are looking to produce something "spectacular". Normals are spectacular to some people too ya know.
  • 08-06-2012, 10:14 AM
    johnmauser
    "The owners couldn't care for it any longer and I was a bit saddened to see the conditions it was living in."

    I hear this a lot, but I wonder how often the owner can't take care of it, vs how often they just don't care to take care of it anymore.

    And the reason it was shedding in little pieces with the other owner is because it had no humidity. If you provide it with the appropriate humidity level, it should shed in one nice piece for you without any problems.

    Goodluck!
  • 08-06-2012, 10:19 AM
    Slim
    Nice rescue! Love the reduced pattern :gj:
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