Help eggs caving in day 5

I am using substratless incubation, I am suing the Sim container, I have 6 eggs that are clumped together. IT is day 5 and they are all starting to dimple and cave in. There is condensation on the sides of the container, non on top. Can someone help me figure out what to do?

A couple things first:

Did all the eggs candle as good?

What did you use for a mixture of water and substrate beneath the light diffuser?

Are you covering the egg box with press and seal?

I have not used substrateless but have read that in doing so you can be way over on the amount of water as the eggs will not be in contact with the substrate anyways. Try adding water and press and seal if you are not using it already.

Pics would help if you have some. I had trouble with that method too but using press and seal did the job

Pics of the setup would definitely help

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Originally Posted by rlditmars

A couple things first:

Did all the eggs candle as good?

What did you use for a mixture of water and substrate beneath the light diffuser?

Are you covering the egg box with press and seal?

I have not used substrateless but have read that in doing so you can be way over on the amount of water as the eggs will not be in contact with the substrate anyways. Try adding water and press and seal if you are not using it already.

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Yes all the eggs candled good

1 part vermiculite to 1 part water by weight

Not sure what press and seal is, I just have the cover on it.


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Add more water. Your ratio would be good if the eggs were in direct contact, but substrateless requires more water. If they still continue to dimple, get some Glad Press 'N Seal or saran wrap to place under the lid (seals in moisture).

You need to put some plastic wrap or the Glad Press and Seal wrap under that lid. The first time I did this, I lost an 11 egg clutch because I thought the lid alone would hold in humidity. It doesn't, not near enough anyway.

I wrap my lid with a couple of layers of plastic wrap, and not too tightly, then put the lid back on. The plastic wrap forms a really good seal and keep humidity high. I just open the tub for a few minutes once a week, and candle the eggs at that time. I've had 5 good clutches this way.

Gale

Those eggs don't show the typical dimpling they usually show towards the end of incubation. Those just have that "tater" look to them. Is this a current pic? If so, I wouldn't worry about it...just continue to monitor...

I agree they do not look bad continue to monitor.

Thanks for all the advice. I added a little more water and did the saran wrap.