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  • 06-16-2012, 05:51 AM
    CherryPython
    *sigh*
    I'm always reading about groups of people opposing keeping, trading and breeding exotic animals over in the US, and it always worries me.

    I haven't heard so much of it over here apart from some companies campaigning, putting a person dressed as a chameleon in a cage on the street.... But then after seeing a couple of posts on Facebook about the APA attacking shows, and peoples opinions on them I had a look...

    http://www.apa.org.uk/index.html

    Well, for starters I'd like to know where they got their emo snake theory? Apparently (and please do tell me if this is true), baby ball pythons are committing suicide inside the egg because they know they're in for a life of captivity? I can't find the link to this theory anywhere now...typical.

    They've sent bomb threats and everything. They're apparently looking to stop breeding and trade of any animal, and starting with reptiles because it'll be easier to convince the uneducated members of the public that all reptile keepers are evil, unrelenting animal abusers.

    I'm not sure what's happening with the Doncaster Dome show, I think it may be going ahead now after words were had. But I cancelled my plans to go and now it's too late to arrange travel :( Was going to be my first show as well. Never mind. Last I heard there was a total prohibition on the sale or trade of any animal at the show, and its surrounding areas. Yes, even the car parks.

    They put out a notice for whistleblowers to tell them where they can next direct their wave of annoyance. The show will be filled with members of the APA, hidden cameras and intrusive questions.

    Maybe I'm being paranoid because this is the first thing to do with reptiles that's been ruined for me by the APA, but I'm just wondering how long it will be before keeping, breeding, trading exotics here will be illegal.
  • 06-16-2012, 10:56 AM
    Mike41793
    Whenever you guys are ready just come on over across the pond for a visit! Theres multiple shows per year near me. I'll take you and grant to the white plains show in NY!:)
  • 06-17-2012, 01:33 PM
    CherryPython
    Re: *sigh*
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike41793 View Post
    Whenever you guys are ready just come on over across the pond for a visit! Theres multiple shows per year near me. I'll take you and grant to the white plains show in NY!:)

    Trust me, as soon as Grant and I have the money we'll be making a trip across the pond :) Sounds great!!! :D Hope everybody who went to the Donny show today had a good time despite the APA and their interfering :)
  • 06-17-2012, 03:42 PM
    Mike41793
    Re: *sigh*
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CherryPython View Post
    Trust me, as soon as Grant and I have the money we'll be making a trip across the pond :) Sounds great!!! :D Hope everybody who went to the Donny show today had a good time despite the APA and their interfering :)

    Aweshummmm!!!!!! Come in fall because thats the best season in New England!
  • 06-17-2012, 03:46 PM
    Andybill
    Re: *sigh*
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CherryPython View Post
    I'm always reading about groups of people opposing keeping, trading and breeding exotic animals over in the US, and it always worries me.

    I haven't heard so much of it over here apart from some companies campaigning, putting a person dressed as a chameleon in a cage on the street.... But then after seeing a couple of posts on Facebook about the APA attacking shows, and peoples opinions on them I had a look...

    http://www.apa.org.uk/index.html

    Well, for starters I'd like to know where they got their emo snake theory? Apparently (and please do tell me if this is true), baby ball pythons are committing suicide inside the egg because they know they're in for a life of captivity? I can't find the link to this theory anywhere now...typical.

    They've sent bomb threats and everything. They're apparently looking to stop breeding and trade of any animal, and starting with reptiles because it'll be easier to convince the uneducated members of the public that all reptile keepers are evil, unrelenting animal abusers.

    I'm not sure what's happening with the Doncaster Dome show, I think it may be going ahead now after words were had. But I cancelled my plans to go and now it's too late to arrange travel :( Was going to be my first show as well. Never mind. Last I heard there was a total prohibition on the sale or trade of any animal at the show, and its surrounding areas. Yes, even the car parks.

    They put out a notice for whistleblowers to tell them where they can next direct their wave of annoyance. The show will be filled with members of the APA, hidden cameras and intrusive questions.

    Maybe I'm being paranoid because this is the first thing to do with reptiles that's been ruined for me by the APA, but I'm just wondering how long it will be before keeping, breeding, trading exotics here will be illegal.

    That has to be the most rediculous thing I have ever heard. I wanna punch whoever said that in the face!
  • 06-18-2012, 08:58 AM
    CherryPython
    Re: *sigh*
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike41793 View Post
    Aweshummmm!!!!!! Come in fall because thats the best season in New England!

    Deal :) We'll get saving haha :D

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Andybill View Post
    That has to be the most rediculous thing I have ever heard. I wanna punch whoever said that in the face!

    Tell me about it!!!! I'll try and dig the article up so you can have a read.
  • 06-18-2012, 12:01 PM
    gsarchie
    Loss of Rights
    So sorry to hear about that! I think that citizens of the U.S. do take a lot of things for granted, and I would say that, at least in my opinion, pet ownership is one of those things. I know that in recent years many laws have been passed in regards to pet onwnership, with bans on certain dog breeds and now bans on big snakes in Florida and the interstate transfer of the "big 4" throughout the entire country being the most notorious examples. Hopefully these laws wake people up rather than serve as a sign of things to come, but who knows. We are supposed to be one of the greatest nations in the world because of the freedoms that we have, yet more and more it seems the government, be it federal or state governments, are taking more and more rights away from law abiding people. Pretty sad state of affairs if you ask me.
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