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I got this girl a year ago as a black pastel but she looks like a cinnamon. The guy I got her from did not produce her and got her at a show as a pet. Now that I bred her with a pastel lesser, the pewters came out looking like black pastel pewters.
Do you think the female is indeed a black pastel?

The female
http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/...ch%202/006.jpg
http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/...ch%202/003.jpg

The pewter hatchlings
http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/...xrem/009-2.jpg

Boy, I have no idea. But those hatchling are cool!

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That's pretty interesting, as I would definitely think the adult was a cinny...there's actually nothing about her that would make me think black pastel. Looks incredibly similar to my big cinny girl as well.

But, they certainly are black pewter babies...so who knows?

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Originally Posted by RobNJ

That's pretty interesting, as I would definitely think the adult was a cinny...there's actually nothing about her that would make me think black pastel. Looks incredibly similar to my big cinny girl as well.

But, they certainly are black pewter babies...so who knows?

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I've researched pictures of black pastels and cinnys and that girl definitely looks like a cinny. But the pewters have pattern cosistent to a black pewter.

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Originally Posted by rexrem

I've researched pictures of black pastels and cinnys and that girl definitely looks like a cinny. But the pewters have pattern cosistent to a black pewter.

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You are 100% accurate haha. I would be confused too. I wish you had a baby picture you could show us. Adult colors are so much different than baby colors.. Especially with this color AND pattern morph... I would have voted cinny as well.

Based on the babies, I guess you "proved" it to be black pastel :gj:

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Originally Posted by rexrem

I've researched pictures of black pastels and cinnys and that girl definitely looks like a cinny. But the pewters have pattern cosistent to a black pewter.

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Agreed, that is what I said.

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Originally Posted by RobNJ

That's pretty interesting, as I would definitely think the adult was a cinny...there's actually nothing about her that would make me think black pastel. Looks incredibly similar to my big cinny girl as well.

But, they certainly are black pewter babies...so who knows?

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x2 i agree

I would say shes definetly a black pastel after seeing those babies, but if you didnt put up pics of the babies i would have said that she was definetly a cinny.

She sure does look Cinnamon, but those babies say something different...

I also have a black pastel female that is starting to have a cinny look to her as she's getting bigger. BUt you can def still tell shes a blk pastel.

Black Pastel are variable

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...ckPastel01.jpg

This girl IS a black pastel but yet looks like a Cinny, now how do I know for sure she is a Black Pastel? I produced her from Black Pastel to Normal pairing I hatched 4 Black Pastels from that clutch and she is the only one that look this way.

http://stewartreptiles.com/wordpress...ckpastel06.jpg

Above is the sire that produced her with one of her sibling.

If someone (the seller) tells you it is a Black Pastel there is no reason why you should not believe this person, there is not much to gain from trying pass a Black Pastel as a Cinny or vice versa