i thought i understood genetics...

but i don't understand how you can breed a bumblebee to a normal and get bumblebee babies.

can someone explain how both genes can be passed from one parent?

this should be in morphs and genetics, not breeding

id say because bee's are not recesive gene

this should be in morphs and genetics, not breeding. but a bee passed on either a pastel gene or a spider gene...not both, which makes a bee.

You can because the bumble bee is a combination of 2 seperate genes... The pastel gene, and the spider gene. Both the pastel and spider gene are co-dominate so when bred to a normal, 50% will pass on the individual pastel or spider gene. So by law of averages 25% of the offspring from a bee-normal will have had both the pastel and spider genes passed on thus creating a bee.

ooook. so why does normal to super pastel create all pastel babies? and could it create more superpastels?

No. Super pastel is one morph. You basically have 2 halves of one gene. With a bumblebee you have 2 genes with 1 half of each gene. I hope that makes sense.

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Think of it this way. Supers any supers like super pastel or bels the animal has two copies of that gene. That's why it visual shows the super form.
So a super pastel bred to a normal each baby will get a copy of a gene from each parent. Since super pastels have 2 pastel genes the babies would all get one pastel gene and one normal gene. Therefore making them all pastels. To get more super pastels you would need another pastel. So the babies would each receive a pastel gene from each parent giving you super pastels.
Hopefully this is easy to understand.


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Pastel and Spider sit on different alleles, so the offspring can receive both. Super Pastels have 2 pastel genes on the same allele, therefore you cannot reproduce a super unless both parents carry pastel.

Genes come in pairs. A snake has many, many pairs of genes. Each baby gets one gene from each of the father's gene pairs. And each baby gets one gene from each of the father's gene pairs. This reestablishes the gene pairs in the baby. Generally we can ignore most of the gene pairs, though.

A normal gene is the most common gene in a given gene pair in wild snakes.

A bumblebee ball python has a gene pair made up of a pastel gene and a normal gene and a second gene pair made up of a spider gene and a normal gene. (A normal gene in one gene pair is not the same as the normal gene in a different gene pair.)

The bumblebee parent gives one gene from each gene pair to each baby. This can be the pastel gene from the first gene pair and the spider gene from the second gene pair. Or it could be the pastel gene from the first gene pair and the normal gene from the second gene pair. Or it could be the normal gene from the first gene pair and the spider gene from the second gene pair. Or it could be the normal gene from both gene pairs.

A super pastel ball python has only one gene pair of interest. This is made up of two pastel genes. Every baby gets a pastel gene from this parent's gene pair.