ENCHI OR NORMAL ? /breeders with experience please

i just hatched out this snake from a normal to enchi breeding. the enchis in the clutch were not the nicest. the enchis did not have great color and have lots of specking on them. just from looking at this snake i thought she was a normal. after looking at the face i noticed that "mustache" patern on her. from my understanding the mustache pattern is what distinguishes enchi from normal. anyway check out the pics and let me know what you guys think.

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/204...tion001.th.jpg
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/601...tion002.th.jpg
http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/5...tion003.th.jpg
http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/3...tion004.th.jpg

enchi in question is on the right. on the left are three enchis from the clutch.

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1...tion006.th.jpg

I dont know much about Enchis, so ill leave that to the experts. But that mustache is definately cool. Ive never heard the mustache being a Enchi identifier though..but like i said, i dont know much about Enchis.

I would say that is a normal. nothing there tells me it is an Enchi.

Can you get better pics of them? when theyre all balled up like that none of them really look enchi to me lol

the three on the left are enchis.

they are all deep in shed. the one with detail pics is the ONLY "snake in question".

i through the "snake in question" in with the enchis for color comparison and thats it.

like i said in the OG post. most of the enchis that came out of this clutch had a lot of pattern and not the best coloring.
i am getting ready to wholesale all my normal hatchlings. she looks like a normal to me. the only thing that through me off was the mustache pattern on her face.

They all look normal to me... None of them look like Enchi, sorry. Could you show us a pic of the Enchi parent?!

The snake in question looks normal to me.

The confirmed enchis look really busy patterned. If any of them looked enchi to me, it would be the top middle one. I can't really tell w/ the other 2 as the angle on them is pretty bad, but they do look like normals to me. The typical reduced enchi pattern isn't there, but the top middle snake does have the right coloring. I'll be honest, they're not the best examples of the morph.

I'm seeing normals across the board :confuzd:

Hi,

I think it's a normal but it will be a lot easier to tell once they have had their first shed. :)


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Originally Posted by mrobert875

the three on the left are enchis.

they are all deep in shed. the one with detail pics is the ONLY "snake in question".

i through the "snake in question" in with the enchis for color comparison and thats it.

like i said in the OG post. most of the enchis that came out of this clutch had a lot of pattern and not the best coloring.
i am getting ready to wholesale all my normal hatchlings. she looks like a normal to me. the only thing that through me off was the mustache pattern on her face.

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Being in shed wouldnt really matter in helping us determine if theyre enchis or not. Enchi is predominanatly a pattern trait even though i realized they also have a certain color to them to. So if you could get some pics of them stretched out where we can see the enchi in them then that would help us to compare it with the snake on the right that is in question. You seem like you got kinda defensive. I didnt mean to offend you by saying teling you youre wrong, i was just stating my opinion that i wasnt seeing enchi in them.