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  • 05-07-2012, 01:33 AM
    Mike.P
    Russo White Diamond help...
    Could someone please give me some clarification regarding the White Diamonds... I'm looking for a female BEL to add to my collection. Is a Russo different just in appearance, or also in the way it would breed? For example, if I breed her to a lesser platty, can I expect more BEL's, or would I get snakes that look normal, and are het for the White Diamond gene? I apologize if this has been answered, but I couldn't find it.
  • 05-07-2012, 01:48 AM
    MarkS
    Yes, the russo white diamonds are part of the same complex, just a different allele for the the same gene. Breeding a white diamond to a mojave or a lesser or one of the other Blue Eyed Leucistic mutations will produce a white snake.
  • 05-07-2012, 02:46 AM
    Christopher De Leon
    Re: Russo White Diamond help...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MarkS View Post
    Yes, the russo white diamonds are part of the same complex, just a different allele for the the same gene. Breeding a white diamond to a mojave or a lesser or one of the other Blue Eyed Leucistic mutations will produce a white snake.

    What Mark said. Russos and Mochas are in the same group as mojave/lesser/butter. White Diamond/Super Russo is just a (typically) super clean BEL. I like to think of the Russo het WD as the yellowbelly of the BEL complex, it cleans up the white. Lol
  • 05-07-2012, 03:04 AM
    Mike.P
    Thanks guys. :D Christopher, so here's my confusion, when you say Russo het WD... So it wouldn't act like any other recessive trait? Say like Clowns, where you need two het clowns to make a visual one. When I plug the WD x lesser into the genetics calculator on world of ball pythons, it comes back with Lemon het leucistic. lol. Or am I just totally not getting something? Pardon my ignorance, I'm new to the breeding side of things.
  • 05-07-2012, 04:28 AM
    Christopher De Leon
    Russo is a morph of its own. Russo is het for White Diamond/BEL, just like Mojave/lesser/butter is het for BEL, YellowBelly is het for Ivory, Pastels are het for Super Pastels, etc. Russos are codom, and also known as Lemons or Lemonbacks.

    I dont mean het as in a recessive gene. As you already may know, when a animal is het for a recessive gene,the gene is not visible and the animal appears normal but its carrying the gene nonetheless. Sorry for the confusion, hope i cleared it up. Theres probably an easier way to explain it, but thats the best i can simplify it. Lol
  • 05-07-2012, 09:49 AM
    OhhWatALoser
    Russo are also called russo het lucy or lemon het lucy, not lemonback though, that is a morph that makes black eye lucy.

    I would say white diamonds are far from clean white, everyone I've seen in person had a yellow dorsal stripe, looked more like an ivory with blue eyes
  • 05-07-2012, 04:07 PM
    Christopher De Leon
    Heres info straight from the man that prived out the morph. Hopefully it will answer any questions you may still have.

    http://www.cuttingedgeherp.com/pytho...ythons&UID=115
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