1st Clutch Bad??? Important

This is my first set of BPs and I have known that my female was gravid. I am still very much a novice, but noticed two days ago that her eggs had dropped very low. So I figured that she would be laying them very soon.

I checked her a couple of hours ago and found that she had layed 9 eggs for her first time. But the eggs do not look good to me at all. I have inserted a couple of photos. And would greatly appreciate any advice. I have the feeling that all 9 are bad eggs. But I am seeking a more experienced opionion.

Thank you all in advance for your advice and help.

Isadora

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They are very dehydrated...Is the substrate in the pics what your're incubating them in?

If so, that's your problem...

Try using a flashlight to see if here is veins in the eggs


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Originally Posted by coldbloodaddict

They are very dehydrated...Is the substrate in the pics what your're incubating them in?

If so, that's your problem...

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Thank you for your reply. That is the substrate that she layed them on. I am transferring them to an egg tub with a Vermiculite mixture and rack. I am hoping this will help rehydrate them.

Isadora

I agree, they are just dehydrated, get them on a good mix of vlite and water, or go substrateless and you should see them plump up within a day or 2. They may always have a wrinkle but they will noticably plump up. Good luck to you, and keep us updated...

I agree, they look very dehydrated. So far they don't look bad, but humidity is definitely something that can harm eggs, low or high. Next time I suggest putting the female on paper, paper towels, or aspen that you lightly misted. Those pine(?) chips will definitely suck humidity right out of the air. I wouldn't even keep your snakes on that stuff. Aspen or paper IMO.

Thank you so much for your reply. I will make the change for the the tank substrate to the Aspen and just keep the pine bedding for my feeding tanks of ASF rats that I raise.

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Originally Posted by SlitherinSisters

I agree, they look very dehydrated. So far they don't look bad, but humidity is definitely something that can harm eggs, low or high. Next time I suggest putting the female on paper, paper towels, or aspen that you lightly misted. Those pine(?) chips will definitely suck humidity right out of the air. I wouldn't even keep your snakes on that stuff. Aspen or paper IMO.

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Um, what are you using as an incubator?
A rack like where u keep the snakes?
If so that might not keep the temps where they should be as well as humidity.

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How long did the eggs sit on that Pine substrate? I ask because it is possible that if they were on the pine for long enough, that some of the oils in the pine could have leached into the eggs, and killed the eggs already. As others have said, they are pretty dehydrated, and even though I may have scared you a bit by the "oils in the pine" comment, it is still worthwhile to incubate the eggs and see what happens. If the eggs do go full term, it is possible that you may have some deformed babies due to the pine bedding.

Everything we do with these animals is a learning experience. So, even if you lose the eggs, chalk it up to experience, and know that you know what to do next time. Good luck, and keep us posted.

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Originally Posted by muddoc

How long did the eggs sit on that Pine substrate? I ask because it is possible that if they were on the pine for long enough, that some of the oils in the pine could have leached into the eggs, and killed the eggs already. As others have said, they are pretty dehydrated, and even though I may have scared you a bit by the "oils in the pine" comment, it is still worthwhile to incubate the eggs and see what happens. If the eggs do go full term, it is possible that you may have some deformed babies due to the pine bedding.

Everything we do with these animals is a learning experience. So, even if you lose the eggs, chalk it up to experience, and know that you know what to do next time. Good luck, and keep us posted.

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This plus the fact that the egg's are semi-pores as as suck the wood shaving could have been drawing some of the moisture out of the egg's. Best of luck with with these egg's I hope things turn out for you.