Question about Puma's

So I asked someone how to make a puma. And they told me a het puma breed to a het ivory. Well my question why say het puma when it's a codominate morph called spark. And a het ivory which is a dominate morph. I thought hets were only used for morphs involving recessive genes like a "normal female het 100% pied". I don't get it -_- does it mean the yellow belly carries a het for ivory? And the spark has the het for puma?

Hope someone can give me a "hets for dummies" kind of explanation. Because I'm just going nuts about it

The term het is pretty commonly used in the YB complex.

Puma is Spark and Yellowbelly. Yellowbelly is sometimes referred to as het ivory, but I wouldn't call Spark het puma, because super spark is not the same as puma.

Yellow belly is het(erozygous) for ivory, which is the homozygous form. Incomplete dominant genes are the "het" for their super forms.

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Originally Posted by mangopixie

Puma is Spark and Yellowbelly. Yellowbelly is sometimes referred to as het ivory, but I wouldn't call Spark het puma, because super spark is not the same as puma.

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Spark, gravel, specter, and yellowbelly are the hets of the Superstripe complex in the same way mojave, lesser, butter are the hets of the BEL complex.

Yellow belly = het ivory
Spector = het super stripe
Spark = het puma
Gravel = het highway

Is that right?

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Originally Posted by mangopixie

Puma is Spark and Yellowbelly. Yellowbelly is sometimes referred to as het ivory, but I wouldn't call Spark het puma, because super spark is not the same as puma.

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That is really yet to be determined. Super Spark and Puma are very similar, and there are not enough Super Sparks to know if it is a real difference or just a variation.

The true test will be when there are enough Gravels and Sparks to put Gravel X Spark, Spark X Spector etc...

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Originally Posted by RobNJ

Spark, gravel, specter, and yellowbelly are the hets of the Superstripe complex in the same way mojave, lesser, butter are the hets of the BEL complex.

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My mistake. Though I don't understand how they could work the same as BELs when superstripe looks completely different from ivorys.

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Originally Posted by Solarsoldier001

So I asked someone how to make a puma. And they told me a het puma breed to a het ivory. Well my question why say het puma when it's a codominate morph called spark. And a het ivory which is a dominate morph. I thought hets were only used for morphs involving recessive genes like a "normal female het 100% pied". I don't get it -_- does it mean the yellow belly carries a het for ivory? And the spark has the het for puma?

Hope someone can give me a "hets for dummies" kind of explanation. Because I'm just going nuts about it

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i'll give the long answer, to start, some suggested reading a lesson in basic genetics. the part about heterozygous and homozygous.
while "het" (which is short for heterozygous) may be commonly used for recessive traits, it technically has nothing to do with recessive co-dom or dom. recessive, co-dom or dom are just classifications based off of how the morph looks (called a phenotype) in heterozygous or homozygous form.



so what a puma is, is in fact a heterozygous puma (recently renamed spark), heterozygous yellow belly (commonly called het ivory). Ivory would also be the same as a homozygous yellow belly. I could go even farther, but i feel this answer your question. basically heterozygous has nothing to do with classification and just means mismatched alleles, however snake lingo reserves that word het for recessive and a few co-dom traits. Very confusing I know, just they way it is.

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Originally Posted by LotsaBalls

Yellow belly = het ivory
Spector = het super stripe
Spark = het puma
Gravel = het highway

Is that right?

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No, not quite correct...

Yellowbelly = Het Ivory
Specter = Het Super Specter
Spark = Het super spark
Gravel = well as far as I know the super has yet to be produced?

Super stripes, Pumas, Highway's happen because the specter, Spark and Gravel all land on the same allele with the yellowbelly.