I can see insanity from my back porch.....

So I've got a '06 Bee male from a very respected breeder who was supposed to be [at least before he came here] a mega-stud who'd 'breed anything you put him in with'.
[which I why I paid so much for him...that "guarantee" of amazing potency]

I've let him settle in.
He is calm and content in his home.
He eats well, even though he refuses to eat anything not alive.
All parameters are spot-on.
I haven't handled him much because he's never been a "pet" and doesn't seem inclined to be.

Last night I put my normal female in with him, she appeared intrigued but he not only was not interested, he went into an hysterical, wall-climbing, cork-screwing, body flinging frenzy which looked like rapid, multiple suicide attempts, culminating in him finally falling upside down on his back and basically just laying there and "playing dead" until I removed her.
[Spider genes are such fun]

Someone here wondered if my snakes were truly the sexes I bought them as so I took said normal female and put her in with my male '08 pastel breeder.

Her tail went right up, he started cruising around, wagging his tail madly [?!?]
They continued doing this perpetual motion/tail display fest until I got bored of watching.

In the mean time, this made me wonder more about the Bee.
So, I took my het Clown male and stuck him in with the Bee.
Same bargain basement histrionics.

Back out came the het Clown male.

I went to fetch hubby so he could witness this madness but put in my het Clown female in this time.

She was her usual mellow, existential self and just to make a liar out of me in front of witnesses, the still-uninterested Bee did not go into histrionics [too tired from all the Shakespearean uber-theatrics before, maybe] and simply crawled into his hide to get away from her.

Out of the 3 times I've tried to introduce females to him, every single time results in this neurotic Ophidiophobia routine.

I spent far too much money on this Bee for him to just be a very pretty, eccentric pet.

Any ideas, thoughts, suggestions, theories [no matter how wild or weird] would be greatly appreciated.

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Originally Posted by Salamander

Last night I put my normal female in with him, she appeared intrigued but he not only was not interested, he went into an hysterical, wall-climbing, cork-screwing, body flinging frenzy which looked like rapid, multiple suicide attempts, culminating in him finally falling upside down on his back and basically just laying there and "playing dead" until I removed her.
[Spider genes are such fun].

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I'm sorry, but this really made me laugh. :rofl: I wish you could have video taped it, but your description is still amazing.

I have no useful advice, but I wish you the best of luck.

I'd would guess that the first "female" is actually a male. Do you know for a fact that she is a she?


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Hi,

Does he do the same when you introduce him into her tub instead?


dr del

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Originally Posted by meowmeowkazoo

I'm sorry, but this really made me laugh. :rofl: I wish you could have video taped it, but your description is still amazing.

I have no useful advice, but I wish you the best of luck.

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If anyone ever tells you that snakes can't fly, I'm here to say they're woefully misinformed.

:D

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Originally Posted by Homegrownscales

I'd would guess that the first "female" is actually a male. Do you know for a fact that she is a she?


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Since I was told by her very reputable former owner that she laid 6 eggs last year, I'm gonna go with a somewhat tentative "yes".

:oops:

Both of the het Clown females laid clutches last year, as well.

[I'm awaiting delivery of a probe set to verify for myself]

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hi,

Does he do the same when you introduce him into her tub instead?


dr del

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Oh, indeed he does and the very neat and tidy ladies do not appreciate his thorough trashing of their orderly homes one bit.

He appears to simply not like snakes.

I would get the animals sexed if you cannot do it yourself. Sounds like 2 males were introduced to each other.

He is spider as well it could just be he needs a bit to calm down. Have you tried putting him in the females tub and just letting them be? The corkscrew is just a sign of stress. He may calm down after he realizes what he's got in there.


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One thing I noticed that no one has brought up yet....all this introducing of different snakes happened in ONE night? If he flipped out at the first snake...for whatever reason...I would have given him a few days to calm down before trying to do anything else with him. He's already stressed after the first encounter, whatever may have caused it...so constantly shoving new snakes into his face is NOT going to calm him down.

They're primitive wild animals. There's never an guarantees, and certainly not sex-on-demand...no matter how well he might have done with another breeder in the past.

Were I in your shoes, I'd simply give him a few days to calm down...THEN try introducing him into the female's tub, rather than the other way around. And then give him a chance to settle down in there as well.