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  • 01-23-2012, 04:45 PM
    hurricaNe
    Didnt know that about Bumble Bee's
    I never really got my head around what the wobble-twirl in the spider gene was until now... So what im trying to understand is, if the snake is over 300 grams with no signs of wobble-twirl, does that mean it will be okay for the rest of his life.... OR Can he still get it at any given time?
  • 01-23-2012, 04:49 PM
    The Serpent Merchant
    They can develop it at any point in their life, but it really isn't anything to worry about.
  • 01-23-2012, 04:49 PM
    spitzu
    It can get worse or get better with age. My Desert/Spider was my worst wobbler as a hatchling, but now it is barely noticeable.

    And I have a woma female that was a little bit of a spaz as a baby, and now a year later she can barely function. It's so bad she can't eat anything bigger than a 20g ASF by herself.
  • 01-23-2012, 04:51 PM
    Mike41793
    Ive seen ads on KS with breeders selling spiders with no wobble so this would lead me to believe its more something that theyre born with not something that can develop later on in life... But thats just my 2 cents, im not positive.
  • 01-23-2012, 04:52 PM
    OhhWatALoser
    Its not something to "get" they all have the potential to do it. Stress or excitement seems to bring it out more. No one can answer your question, it going to be up to your animal. I've seen the same animal be fine when it was born, go to a new home, get shipped back with a horrible wobble and lose the wobble over a month or two. Our theory was the living conditions at the one home wernt ideal for that spider.
  • 01-23-2012, 04:55 PM
    hurricaNe
    Nothing to worry about? How can you have a snake like that? I would just feel bad to see it like that, constantly wobbling and twirling? Im buying a bumble bee from a local breeder.... but i have kind of shifted my attention to this butter he is selling :
    http://i42.tinypic.com/1fgy34.jpg

    He says this Bee here:
    http://i40.tinypic.com/2ely3ol.jpg

    Does not have a wobble-twirl, but i'm worried it will develop it later on.

    Any thoughts?
  • 01-23-2012, 04:57 PM
    hurricaNe
    Re: Didnt know that about Bumble Bee's
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post
    Its not something to "get" they all have the potential to do it. Stress or excitement seems to bring it out more. No one can answer your question, it going to be up to your animal. I've seen the same animal be fine when it was born, go to a new home, get shipped back with a horrible wobble and lose the wobble over a month or two. Our theory was the living conditions at the one home wernt ideal for that spider.

    You're saying if the temp or humidity isn't right it can bring it out more?
  • 01-23-2012, 05:00 PM
    The Serpent Merchant
    Re: Didnt know that about Bumble Bee's
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hurricaNe View Post
    You're saying if the temp or humidity isn't right it can bring it out more?

    Stress and/or excitement is what brings it out. Improper temperatures or humidity levels will stress you any snake.
  • 01-23-2012, 05:01 PM
    hurricaNe
    Whats your thoughts on the "bumble Bee vs. Butter" should i take the risk and buy the bumble bee? Or go with a butter.:taz:
  • 01-23-2012, 05:02 PM
    The Serpent Merchant
    Re: Didnt know that about Bumble Bee's
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hurricaNe View Post
    Nothing to worry about? How can you have a snake like that? I would just feel bad to see it like that, constantly wobbling and twirling? Im buying a bumble bee from a local breeder.... but i have kind of shifted my attention to this butter he is selling :
    http://i42.tinypic.com/1fgy34.jpg

    He says this Bee here:
    http://i40.tinypic.com/2ely3ol.jpg

    Does not have a wobble-twirl, but i'm worried it will develop it later on.

    Any thoughts?

    No it's not. It is extremely overstated on the Internet, and cases bad enough to cause actual issues are rare. I'm holding my spider right now, and his head will start to wobble just a bit, but he doesn't seem to mind so neither do I.
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