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  • 01-13-2012, 04:20 AM
    Foschi Exotic Serpents
    Hot Cinny's x new blackback gene I'm working with
    Here are a few new shots of freshly shed Cinnamons carrying a gene I'm dinking around with. It's some type of genetic BB gene. All I know so far is that it's dominant and it lightens and improves on other morphs. It sure does make some pretty cinnamons!

    The first photo is to show how drastically they improve with age.

    As babies after first shed.. Here they looked slightly "different" from regular cinnys but they were not nearly as light as they are now. The female on the far right was sold early on so I don't have recent pics but I've been told she also keeps getting lighter..
    http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...s/IMG_6840.jpg

    Here is male #1 now. My hold-back.
    http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...s/IMG_6148.jpg

    Male #1 again. My hold-back.
    http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...s/IMG_1240.jpg

    And male #1 hold-back again.
    http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...s/IMG_4828.jpg

    Female #1 hold-back.
    http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...s/IMG_6081.jpg

    Female #1 hold-back again.
    http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...s/IMG_4496.jpg

    And female hold-back again.
    http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...s/IMG_2079.jpg

    Here are my 1.1 holdbacks together.
    http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...s/IMG_0741.jpg

    Here is male #2.
    http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...s/IMG_3989.jpg

    Male #2 again.
    http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...s/IMG_2236.jpg

    Here is the Dam.
    http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...s/IMG_3605.jpg
  • 01-13-2012, 04:29 AM
    LotsaBalls
    Good luck! Those guys are hot!
  • 01-13-2012, 04:40 AM
    Simple Man
    Looking good! Best of luck with your project.

    Regards,

    B
  • 01-13-2012, 11:21 AM
    Mike41793
    Wow thats really cool. I cant wait to see how much lighter theyll get. Be sure to post more pics eventually!
  • 01-13-2012, 11:44 AM
    Foschi Exotic Serpents
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike41793 View Post
    Wow thats really cool. I cant wait to see how much lighter theyll get. Be sure to post more pics eventually!

    Thanks! What I can't wait for is for this little male to start producing plugs so I can do a breed-back. They are all just barely under 500 grams now so a late season breeding is definitely going to happen :)

    I need to rule out wether or not it's co-dom and has a super, or if there may be anything else going on. The dam is from unknown origin so who knows.

    I too am wondering when they will stop getting lighter. So far it's been with every single shed. It's also unusual how prominent the eye stripes are. The cinny sire is a Bradford/Cole cinny which is rather dark with very faded eye stripes. He never produced babies that looked anything like these did even in the first baby pic.

    I love how male #1 kinda looks like a browned out pastel or low quality pewter they way his blushing is.
  • 01-13-2012, 11:47 AM
    Royal Hijinx
    Wow, those are sweet. I love the blushed backs.
  • 01-13-2012, 12:18 PM
    snakesRkewl
    If it's genetic or not those are pretty hot Monica.
    My non blush back black pastels throw blush backs, it's just part of what they do, genetic yes but it doesn't play out on the normals, just the black pastels, so it's not a separate gene as far as I can tell.
    Did you get black back normals in the clutch?
  • 01-13-2012, 12:27 PM
    Foschi Exotic Serpents
    Yes Jerry. The entire clutch inherited the gene. It's some sort of lightening gene with BB traits that improve with age. All the "normals" had it too.

    As for my cinny sire. I'd bred him a few times prior to this and I know what kind of babies he produces. Absolutely nothing like this.

    This is genetic.
  • 01-13-2012, 12:27 PM
    loonunit
    Neat! I didn't expect them to grow up with so much blushing!
  • 01-13-2012, 12:33 PM
    snakesRkewl
    Re: Hot Cinny's x new blackback gene I'm working with
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Foschi Exotic Serpents View Post
    Yes Jerry. The entire clutch inherited the gene. It's some sort of lightening gene with BB traits that improve with age. All the "normals" had it too.

    As for my cinny sire. I'd bred him a few times prior to this and I know what kind of babies he produces. Absolutely nothing like this.

    This is genetic.

    Sweet, I was just curious, I thought my line of black pastels threw black backs too, but after 3 years of producing them I believe that mine are blush backs.

    Good luck with them:gj:
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