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  • 12-29-2011, 05:27 PM
    spider_ball
    Newbie with some questions
    Just purchased my first snake, a spider ball python the other day.
    I am having some issues with temperatures. I have a fairly large tank (48x18x18) and having difficulty achieving proper temps.
    I have an UTH that reads 90 degrees on top of the aspen bedding, and 95 degrees without the bedding (incase the snake digs under the substrate)
    I noticed that with just the UTH the tank everywhere else was cold (72 degrees, the temp of my house) so I got a lamp and bulb. That puts the hot side at a ranging temperature of 85 degrees to 92 degrees (which is good correct)?

    Anyways, the cool side is still pretty cool, between 72 degrees and 75 degrees maximum. However I am debating whether or not to just leave it alone because my ball python seems to be spending most of her time on the cool side (sleeping there ALL day, for the past couple days since I brought her home). She does venture to the warm side at night and into her hide on the warm side, but not nearly as often as she stays on the cool side.

    Is everything ok?
  • 12-29-2011, 05:41 PM
    kitedemon
    My suggestion is the cool side is too cool at 72-75 I personally don't like seeing below 77-78 cool end so I'd suggest lifting the temps some. The hot end is fine at 90 small snakes 88 is great they typically don't need as high a temp.
  • 12-29-2011, 07:12 PM
    luvmyballs
    Definitely get the heat up in the cool side. You my want to use two heat sources with such a big tank. Also you might want to place a second hide on the cool end especially if the snake is small. Also one more piece of advise. I would switch your substrate from aspen to eco dirt. You will be able up control your humidity much better.
  • 12-29-2011, 09:23 PM
    Mike41793
    Are you sure those tank dimensions are correct? Are those in inches or cm?
  • 12-29-2011, 09:51 PM
    spider_ball
    Re: Newbie with some questions
    those are inches. Its a 4 foot long by 18 inch deep by 18 inch high
  • 12-29-2011, 10:36 PM
    RestlessRobie
    Re: Newbie with some questions
    Ok I definately need to make a sticky for this if I can ever get around to it.
    Here is How I manage temps in my Aquariums this works great for all size tanks

    I cover 3 exterior sides with a aquarium background for viewing pleasure only :)
    Then I take Cardboard and cover one side with foil tape and attach over the background on the ouside of the tank with the foil tape facing in to reflect heat back in Looks kinda like this

    http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...83841836_n.jpg

    http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...84084614_n.jpg

    Then I use plexi on top of the mesh Cut a hole to fit you heat lamp and several holes for ventilation :) as seen here

    http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...64496118_n.jpg

    I use a 60W CHE in my 20 longs and a 100W CHE in my 40 long All my CHE's are on a dimmer bought from homedepot looks kinda like this

    My UTH is usually a peice of 11in Flexwatt I prefer to use the Vivarium T-stats to regulate the heat for those I set min to about 98 with the T-stat probe taped to the Flexwatt under the tank. I never use tape or glue in any of my enclosure (see the numerous threads about snakes stuck to -----)

    When all is setup properly this give me what I think is great temps for my snakes
    about ambient 80 with a hot hide about 92. As you can see on the accurite temps and humidity are great and the room temp when that was taken was about 66f

    http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...38874278_n.jpg
    Hope this helps and feel free to ask me any more questions you might Have :D
  • 12-29-2011, 11:26 PM
    Mike41793
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spider_ball View Post
    those are inches. Its a 4 foot long by 18 inch deep by 18 inch high

    That means that is a 67 gallon tank! That tank is WAY too big for your bp. Im assuming you got a baby but even if you had a fully grown female that tank would be considered WAY too big. You need to get a smaller tank for him. It will make it easier for you to maintain the temps/humidity and your bp will feel much more secure. Im not trying to sound rude or bossy btw so please dont take offense :)
  • 12-29-2011, 11:26 PM
    Evenstar
    Thanks for the detailed directions Robie! This will be helpful to anyone with a tank - you really should make a sticky, lol... :gj:
  • 12-29-2011, 11:33 PM
    Evenstar
    Re: Newbie with some questions
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike41793 View Post
    That means that is a 67 gallon tank! That tank is WAY too big for your bp. Im assuming you got a baby but even if you had a fully grown female that tank would be considered WAY too big. You need to get a smaller tank for him. It will make it easier for you to maintain the temps/humidity and your bp will feel much more secure. Im not trying to sound rude or bossy btw so please dont take offense :)

    A 40gal breeder is often recommended for an adult BP. Those measure 36x18x16 which is only 12" longer than the OP's tank. I don't think that's too large for an adult at all. I know my own adult female would use ever inch of that space. I do agree it's too big for a baby, but an adult should be fine so long as there are at least 2 hides and plenty of cover to provide security... ;)
  • 12-29-2011, 11:47 PM
    Mike41793
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Evenstar View Post
    A 40gal breeder is often recommended for an adult BP. Those measure 36x18x16 which is only 12" longer than the OP's tank. I don't think that's too large for an adult at all. I know my own adult female would use ever inch of that space. I do agree it's too big for a baby, but an adult should be fine so long as there are at least 2 hides and plenty of cover to provide security... ;)

    Idk, I respectfully disagree with you but I dont really want to fight because they're your snakes not mine. If it is a baby spider that he got then that is too big of a tank. But I'll just explain my reasoning for saying it could be too big for an adult: Im almost positive that most bp breeders keep their adults in 41qt tubs. 41qts=only 10.25 gallons. I also know bps are terrestrial so thats what counts more but I just wanted to explain to you where I was coming from with my comment :)
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