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  • 12-15-2011, 10:49 PM
    Iancusp
    Help! New owner!! How to heat tank
    Hi all. I just picked up the first snake ive ever owned. Crazy because I had a fear of them and had mustered up the courage to hold a friend of mines and realized how cool and docile thry.were.

    But here is my dilema. I have a baby bp and I was trying to figure out the most effective way to heat his 20 gal long tank. Wat watt lights if I should get uth if so wat color lights and all those cool things.
    Thank you for your help.
  • 12-15-2011, 11:00 PM
    mattchibi
    Here are the temps and humidity that ball pythons require:

    Cool side: 78-80 F (nothing under 75)
    Warm side: 81-83 F
    Hot spot: 90-92 F
    Humidity: 50-60%, 70% during shed

    The best way to heat it is combining a heat lamp w/ dimmer on top of the 20 gal, and then a UTH on one side under a hide, to create the hot spot. A good brand of UTH are zoo med and ultratherm. Your UTH will NEED a thermostat to control the temps, check out Vivarium Electronics or Herpstat, otherwise your snake will be susceptible to burns. The heat lamp should use either an infrared lamp (50 watt is sufficient) or a CHE (ceramic heat emitter), but they both drain humidity a lot, so only use it if your house is cold (room temperature of under 75).

    I suggest cypress mulch bedding (Zoo Med Forest Floor Cypress Mulch) or coco-husk for bedding, as humidity tends to suck in glass tank enclosures. Other beddings that work are aspen, paper towels or newspaper. You will need two identical-looking hides on both sides of the glass tank so the snake can thermoregulate, aka choose if he wants to be hot or cold. I highly suggest you downgrade to a 10 gal or a tub setup for now, because a 20 gal is much too big for a baby bp.

    Take a look at the care sheet in the Ball Python Husbandry section. It will answer a lot of your questions.
  • 12-15-2011, 11:02 PM
    heathers*bps
    Please take the time to look this caresheet over.

    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...ius)-Caresheet

    It is recommended that you have all the proper caging and supplies before you purchase the snake. Your 20 gallon long is too large for your baby ball. They prefer smaller enclosures and tight fitting hides. I prefer not to use tanks, as they are harder to maintain the proper temps and humidity, but I know others who do it. Lights are also not the best thing, as the bulbs tend to suck the humidity right out of your cage. I would get a 15qt tub with a UTH on a t-stat.

    I hope I have helped. And welcome to bp.net :)
  • 12-15-2011, 11:14 PM
    Royal Hijinx
    Your tank will work if that is all you have and you have plenty of hides and keep the temperatures and humidity in spec.
  • 12-15-2011, 11:19 PM
    Iancusp
    Thank you.
    The pet store actually set me up with their tank until mine comes in. its a ten gal with a 15 watt blue lightbulb. I bought him a hide however he doesny really go in it. He just ate so I havent handled him. But after reading about everyones set up I feel like mine might be inadequate.
  • 12-15-2011, 11:21 PM
    Iancusp
    The tank im waiting for is a twenty but I guess I will store it and get a ten to keep. My house is usually between 68 and 70 and I have dry air
  • 12-16-2011, 12:22 AM
    mschmied
    Like they said above, you always want to have everything ready BEFORE you purchase an animal, especially a reptile that usually requires special care. Anyway, whatever tank you get, 10, 20...it should not be an issue as long as you give them some hides and a little security. Try blacking out the back and two sides of the tank to give the animal more security. I have put 100 gram bp's that came from 6 qt tubs into 32 qt tubs with no issue at all. If you happen to notice a lapse in feeding response you may want to add more decore to the tank or crumple up some newspaper and put it in there to make it seem smaller. These animals are fairly hearty and there is more than one way to "skin a cat"....only sugguestions
  • 12-16-2011, 10:43 AM
    blueberrypancakes
    My best purchases (I'm a first time owner as well, but have had mine for a few months...) have been the UTH and my thermostat. I also have a glass tank, and I used black out paper to cover 3 sides of the tank as well as half of the top. I think it helps with the heat and humidity because I have left the lid open when I have had Jackson out and when I put him back they were both lower than usual...
    It is funny how much you learn you need after you get your ball python, they don't tell you all this in the store! Welcome to the site!
  • 12-18-2011, 09:49 PM
    Iancusp
    Thank you very much. I have purchased a heat pad and a slightly warmer bulb. And now im waiting for my herpstat to be delivered. Im srry if I offended anyone by not being ready to bring him home. I was under the impression that I was set since the pet store basically set me up with it.
  • 12-18-2011, 10:16 PM
    Caffeinatrix
    Re: Help! New owner!! How to heat tank
    One of the most helpful tips I got was to keep your water bowl in the middle of the tank. I was having no problems with heat, but I couldn't keep my humidity above 40. Also, get a misting water bottle, and mist the tank every now and again. A 20 may be a little big, atm, but you'll want the space, later. Balls may like to be in small dark spaces, but as your friend gets bigger, they'll need bigger hides. I've got a 20 long, and am thinking of upgrading to a 40, bc my guy has gotten so big, his hides are almost too large for the tank.

    As others before me have mentioned, a UTH is going to be a huge help with heat management. I've been told ceramic lamps tend to leach humidity, and should be avoided.
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