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  • 12-12-2011, 05:00 AM
    Jor23dan
    numbers?
    New to bp keeping and looking around at morphs i see it will say 1.0 spider or 3.0 black pewter. What do the 1.0 and 3.0 mean?
  • 12-12-2011, 05:06 AM
    CLSpider
    1.0 = 1 male
    0.1 = 1 female
    3.0 = 3 males
    2.7 = 2 males and 7 females
    0.0.4 = 4 unsexed/unknown
    3.8.5 = 3 males, 8 females, 5 unsexed/unknown
    Etc etc
  • 12-12-2011, 06:14 AM
    VEXER19
    Its pretty black and white above but just incase:

    The first number is for how many males you have of that morph.

    The second number is for how many females you have for that morph.

    And third number wich is optional is for unsexed/unknown. Most people do not use the third number but you will see it often when people get a new snake or some hatchlings.

    Probably was redundant but you never know.
  • 12-12-2011, 10:06 AM
    Jor23dan
    Lol alright sounds easy enough. Thank you for the help
  • 12-12-2011, 06:27 PM
    Jor23dan
    Also what does het mean? where does that come from?
  • 12-12-2011, 06:41 PM
    JLC
    Re: numbers?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jor23dan View Post
    Also what does het mean? where does that come from?

    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...Basic-Genetics
  • 12-12-2011, 06:44 PM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Re: numbers?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jor23dan View Post
    Also what does het mean? where does that come from?

    Its a recessive gene, both parents have to have said gene to produce a visual.
    You are going to be overloaded with information and full of questions.:rofl:;)
  • 12-12-2011, 06:46 PM
    VEXER19
    Re: numbers?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jor23dan View Post
    Also what does het mean? where does that come from?

    Heterozygous it means that a snake carries the gene but doesn't show it. Like a recessive gene where both parents have to have it and give it to the offspring for the gene to show like albino. If you breed to normal snakes 1 male and 1 female that are both het for albino then you would have a 25% chance that they would produce an albino. Think of it as they look normal but both have a N gene and an A gene. So each offspring would get an A or N gene from each parent. So you would end up with 25% of the offspring with N and N gene which is a normal without the albino gene. 50% would be N and A which would produce normals that carry the albino gene or het albino. And the other 25% would have A and A gene resulting in an albino. there is no way to know which normals carry the albino gene so they would al be considered I believe 66% het for albino which is the chance percentage that they will carry the gen in this case 2 out of 3 of the normals would carry the A or albino gene. Only Once proven through mating that the gene does exist can you call the offspring 100% het for albino.
  • 12-13-2011, 01:50 AM
    Jor23dan
    Sorry i didnt search for it since there is already a thread but thank you that was very helpful. So does that mean when buying from a breeder that says 66% het for albino, it basically means that it could possibly have that gene but not definite?
  • 12-13-2011, 05:22 AM
    Inarikins
    Re: numbers?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jor23dan View Post
    Sorry i didnt search for it since there is already a thread but thank you that was very helpful. So does that mean when buying from a breeder that says 66% het for albino, it basically means that it could possibly have that gene but not definite?

    Yes. There's a 66% chance the snake is actually het for albino but there's also a 33% chance it's just a normal. Because hets and normals look identical and both can be produced from breeding hets together or hets and visuals, they're just labeled with a percentage. A 100% het albino is, well... 100% het for albino.
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