What the.. Figuring out the 1/64 punnett square. Help!

Hey guys,

Since I started learning and reading about breeding, I have been taking a lot of time doing punnett squares. Everyday I do a couple to look at possible combinations I can produce in the next few years. I have to say, some of my friends and co-workers are getting weirded out because I talk about snakes all the time now, haha.

So I have figured out everything up to the 1/16 odds punnett squares. That is to say everything that is 4-gene or less. Here are a few examples (I want to see if I am doing it right)

p = pastel, P = normal gene
s = spider, S = normal gene
q = lesser, Q = normal gene (i use Q's becuase L's are hard to read)

Lesser Pastel (qQpP) x Bumble Bee (pPsS)


So that gives:
1/16 Killer Queen Bee
1/16 Super Pastel Lesser
1/16 Killer Bee
2/16 Queen Bee
1/16 Super Pastel
2/16 Bumble Bee
2/16 Pastel Lesser
1/16 Lesser Spider
2/16 Pastel
1/16 Lesser
1/16 Spider
1/16 Normal

So I'm pretty sure thats correct. Now trying to understand recessive genes.

p = pastel, P = normal gene
b = piebald, B = normal gene (needs two "b"'s for visual morph)
a = albino, A = normal gene (needs two "a"'s for visual morph)

Pastel Piebald (pPbb) x Albino (aa):


Offspring would be:
1/2 Pastel 100% Double Het Albino Piebald
1/2 Normal 100% Double Het Albino Piebald

Here is my million dollar question. Somebody who knows this stuff help me out if you can :gj:

How do you calculate, in terms of punnett squares, this pairing:

Pastel 100% Double Het Albino Pied x Pastel 100% Double Het Albino Pied??

I know for a fact there is a 1/64 chance for Killer Pied Albino, because Jkobylka talks about it at some point in his videos. But I am really clueless as to how to setup a 8 by 8 punnett square. Someone help ! :D

Pastel 100% Double Het Albino Pied x Pastel 100% Double Het Albino Pied

Change the variables as you wish, this is how I do it.
Uppercase = Morph gene
Lower case = not morph
P = Pastel, A = Albino, X = Pied

I'll Let you fill it in, this method will be consistent and will show two alleles on every locus your concerned with

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

Pastel 100% Double Het Albino Pied x Pastel 100% Double Het Albino Pied

Change the variables as you wish, this is how I do it.
Uppercase = Morph gene
Lower case = not morph
P = Pastel, A = Albino, X = Pied

I'll Let you fill it in, this method will be consistent and will show two alleles on every locus your concerned with

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Thanks so much! I get it now.

way too much work LOL
I am lazy (for now) and will stick with the online calculators;):rofl::rofl:

Yeah it is alot alot of work to figure it all out. I tried once apon a time to make a giant chart for my wall with just double gene combos n its like 3 bristol boards big right now lol I looked into 3 n 4 and i don have walls that big lol. Your best best is this http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard/ it will answer every quetion all the time :D hold shift to add more then 1 gene to a male or female in your pairings.

Join the club about people thinking you're crazy. I can't tell you how many lists I have made...Breeding lists, need lists, wish lists, This site sure does save some time and headaches. http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard/. You can go through a ton of combos in a day.

I might have a suggestion, if you go on line and google Genetic Generic wizard by MP productions, it should bring up a free software download.

Hope it helps