Can low Quality Pythons produce High Quality offspring

So like most people new to the python hobbie, I opted for the cheaper route instead of the expensive and High Quality python. In the future I will deffinatly pay more for better Quality pythons.

My pastels look like normals, and my Bumblee bee is nice to me, but definalty not a high Quality bee like ive seen on here.

Im wondering though, Even if the pytons are not of the highest Quality, they must still be able to produce nice offspring? or will they still be low Quality?

Here are some pictures,so from what you guys can see from the pictures, is there any possibilty of producing some decent offspring in the future? they are young in this picture.

Be honest, I can handle it! lol

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From what I've read it could go either way. You can get high quality from low quality and you can also get low quality from high quality.

I don't think your pastels look that bad, the first one has some nice blushing. Your bee is a little brown, but he has a good pattern for a spider.

I think you can make some nice babies with what you have. :)

I agree the bee isn't super bright, however, it has high white and is reduced which a lot of people really like in their bees/spiders. I do not know too much about the pastels, looks a little dull to me. Did you see the parents? What were they like? I have heard sometimes ugly snakes can make beautiful babies and vice versa.

Well you have low white pieds that can produce high white pieds. So a low quality animal can produce high quality. But thats not a guarantee and depending on whether you would consider low white low quality. But there's also high quality snakes like the lesser that could produce low quality animals. I think ralph davis said in one of his articles on his website that he had a high quality lesser, but the babies from her were different.

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Originally Posted by Maddumpling

Well you have low white pieds that can produce high white pieds. So a low quality animal can produce high quality.

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I don't think you can really use pied white % as an example here. High or low white doesn't necessarily constitute quality (at least imo for pieds, although I do prefer high whites). I always considered bright color and a nice pattern as what determines a good pied :)

As for quality, high and low quality animals can throw offspring that are quite different than the parents. It is still best to always breed animals with good qualities to animals that compliment those traits in the hopes of producing even better offspring (selective breeding).

While the babies you have are not the best quality that is true, you have a lot of time before they are big enough to breed, especially the girls.

So what I would do is save a little money out of each paycheck, heck even $20 a check will add up quick. Then just about the time those girls are ready to go, you can invest in a stellar male for them. Use him to make their babies better than they are. I picked up a really nice Fire male ready to breed for $250. Or if you can squeeze the money, get a double co-dom male and get a jump on making double and triple co-doms.

Or by the same token, save up a little money over the next 6 months while your male is growing up, and invest in one outstanding female. A breeding size normal female goes for around $125-$200, so shop around and find the sweetest normal you can get your hands on, and use her to boost the pastels and spiders your male will throw.

You don't necessarily need both parents to be exceptional to make nice babies, even one high quality parent will improve the offspring.

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Angllady2- Yes I actually saterted saving already, Im saving for A high qaultity adult female, Still unsure Of which way to go, I have 4 Morphs Im considering,

A high qaulity adult
cinnamin
Butter
Lesser
Super pastel

which addition would be best to try and get my qaultiy up?

Think that depends on more of what you want to work with. I have a pastel, and I like butfers alot so my male will be co dom butter something for sure.

It can happen.... Ever see an attractive person with ugly parents that wasn't adopted? more than likely.... The same can happen with animals, high quality produced some ugly animals from time to time, and some time some low quality animals produce some awesome stuff

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Originally Posted by jmitch

Think that depends on more of what you want to work with. I have a pastel, and I like butfers alot so my male will be co dom butter something for sure.

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yeah I know, I really like

Bee x butter

Bumble Bee Butter
Butter Bee
Butter Pastel

Bee x Cinny

Pewter Bee
Cinna Bee

And then If I could hit the odds, from one of those breedings and get one of the listed one above,

and make a killer bee from my two pastels, I would then breed the killer to one of them.

well that was the plan anyhow