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12 weeks old and......

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  • 10-18-2011, 07:55 PM
    nickyp0
    12 weeks old and......
    o.k. i was just on blog-talk radio and they were talking about breeding male ball pythons at 12 weeks of age. can you really breed at 12 weeks old?
  • 10-18-2011, 08:09 PM
    Riv
    Re: 12 weeks old and......
    Ive heard that it is unsafe to breed males below the age of 7 months and a weight of 700 grams.

    18 months for females with a weight of 1300-1500 grams.

    12 weeks jesus. that snake wouldnt even be sexually mature enough to get it on.
  • 10-18-2011, 08:24 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Soon as a male produce sperm plugs you can breed it.

    Now with that said many young male will not have much interest and most importantly breeding a very young male at a low weight could be disastrous if not monitored properly as breeding really takes it's toll on males.

    Not something I recommend to someone with not prior breeding experience.

    Keep in mind males can be bred to death.

    I have try very young males around 450 grams in the past and none as ever shown any interest, I get much better results with males in the 650/850 grams range.
  • 10-18-2011, 08:27 PM
    MidSouthMorphs
    It is common to breed males around 400 grams, just be cautious about over breeding them. I seen a story from Markus Jayne about his 395 gram male successfully breeding at 5 months of age. The snakes themselves know when they are sexually mature enough to breed. I wouldn't personally breed any male weighing less than 400. But I usually wait until they are 500.
  • 10-18-2011, 08:33 PM
    Riv
    Re: 12 weeks old and......
    Wow. I stand corrected. I'd never heard you could breed males as low as 400 grams before. I guess most of my research revolved around the age and weights for females after all XD I dont even have my male yet.
  • 10-18-2011, 08:40 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    I dont go by age with males. I wait for them to have plugs. Then i start pairing them with females. Once small young males refuse 2 meals for me, their done breeding for season till they eat again well.

    I had a male Pin father a clutch by time he was 350g.
  • 10-18-2011, 09:24 PM
    nickyp0
    just so everyone know what i am talking about, here is were i got this from http://www.blogtalkradio.com/reptile...13/quick-blast
    i don't buy it really, i like to breed my males at 800-1000 grams myself.
  • 10-19-2011, 08:59 AM
    Jay_Bunny
    I have bred a male as small as 450. He fathered a clutch that season but it took a lot for me to get the weight on him the next season because he didn't want to eat.

    I have a male right now that is about 250g and he has been producing sperm plugs since he was about 200-220g. I have a big 2100g girl waiting for him, but I'm going to wait until he is at least 400g, maybe even 500g.
  • 10-19-2011, 09:50 AM
    DemmBalls
    Re: 12 weeks old and......
    Here's a 400-500 gram male breeding a 2800-3000 gram girl. 12 weeks just seems extremely young to me...Not saying it's wrong, but can they possibly be mature by then? Interesting.

    http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...s/DSCN2542.jpg
  • 10-19-2011, 01:24 PM
    Lopezxx2
    Re: 12 weeks old and......
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DemmBalls View Post
    Here's a 400-500 gram male breeding a 2800-3000 gram girl. 12 weeks just seems extremely young to me...Not saying it's wrong, but can they possibly be mature by then? Interesting.

    http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...s/DSCN2542.jpg

    That is a great pic. Its totally goijg to be like my only pairing this year:) classic pic. But it woulb be interesting for someone professional testing how early they mature without just throwing them at a female,and keeping the snake safe.
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