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  • 10-18-2011, 12:03 PM
    adamsky27
    Just some recent pics (BEL and Pastave)
    I was cleaning tubs today so I decided to snap a few pics since these guys have had a couple meals now. I think the Pastave is going into shed soon, he doesn't look as bright as normal.

    1.0 Pastave
    http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...7/DSC_0038.jpg
    http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...7/DSC_0036.jpg

    0.1 BEL (Lesser x Mojave)
    http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...DSC_0027-1.jpg
    http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...7/DSC_0025.jpg
  • 10-18-2011, 12:09 PM
    Amon Ra Reptiles
    Awesome BEL! Can't wait to produce one!
  • 10-18-2011, 12:10 PM
    JulieInNJ
    Amazing animals!
  • 10-18-2011, 12:51 PM
    crazy ball
    can you produce a bell with a mojave x mojave or say a lesser bee x lesser plat ???
  • 10-18-2011, 12:58 PM
    wwmjkd
    Re: Just some recent pics (BEL and Pastave)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by crazy ball View Post
    can you produce a bell with a mojave x mojave or say a lesser bee x lesser plat ???


    BELs can come from both of the above pairings. the mojave x mojave should have a 1/4 chance of producing a lucy in each egg. however, with a lesser bee x lesser, the odds are skewed because you also have the spider and pastel genes at work. check out the genetics calculators at OWAL and worldofballpythons.com. they both will tell you the exact odds of producing a lucy from that pairing.

    edit: fantastic BEL above. they've long been my favorite, next to the ultramel, and the sole reason I picked up a female kingpin.
  • 10-18-2011, 01:30 PM
    TheSnakeEye
    Lesser x Lesser Bee will give you the same percentage of producing of a BEL, except you having chances of producing a Pastel BEL or Spider BEL.
  • 10-18-2011, 01:39 PM
    Kinra
    Re: Just some recent pics (BEL and Pastave)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wwmjkd View Post
    BELs can come from both of the above pairings. the mojave x mojave should have a 1/4 chance of producing a lucy in each egg. however, with a lesser bee x lesser, the odds are skewed because you also have the spider and pastel genes at work. check out the genetics calculators at OWAL and worldofballpythons.com. they both will tell you the exact odds of producing a lucy from that pairing.

    edit: fantastic BEL above. they've long been my favorite, next to the ultramel, and the sole reason I picked up a female kingpin.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by that_dc5 View Post
    Lesser x Lesser Bee will give you the same percentage of producing of a BEL, except you having chances of producing a Pastel BEL or Spider BEL.

    A lesser bee is just a lesser spider, a queen bee is a lesser spider pastel so there is no pastel gene involved. Determining if a BEL is a Spider BEL can be done with a black light I think but other than for breeding purposes I can't see a point in trying to produce one, it should just look like a BEL.
  • 10-18-2011, 01:48 PM
    wwmjkd
    queen bee = pastel x lesser x spider = lesser bee. there is a pastel gene, which is why I mentioned that it might not be the optimal pairing if one's goal is simply to produce a BEL.
  • 10-18-2011, 02:32 PM
    meowmeowkazoo
    Re: Just some recent pics (BEL and Pastave)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wwmjkd View Post
    queen bee = pastel x lesser x spider = lesser bee. there is a pastel gene, which is why I mentioned that it might not be the optimal pairing if one's goal is simply to produce a BEL.

    No, a lesser bee is spider x lesser. A queenbee is spider x lesser x pastel.
  • 10-18-2011, 02:33 PM
    krinklebearcat
    Re: Just some recent pics (BEL and Pastave)
    Very nice animals. The pastave is an underrated combo imo, love them.
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