Toffee not a Banana...Mistaken Identity Oops!

Hey Guys,

I just wanted to clear up some confusion caused by our last post tilted "Our latest addition". The photo within that post and this post is of our male Toffee holdback that we are adding into our breeding group not a Banana. It still amazes us how similar these two morphs look as babies. In fact I recall two years ago at Tinley Park Pete Kahl displayed a baby Candy and baby Banana together and most couldn't tell them apart. I would imagine someone like Brock Wagner who's produced tons of Banana's would be able to identify the slight nuances between the two morphs. However as they mature they become quite different. The Toffee develops and holds opulent hues as an adult, which you can see in Paul Angelides previous post titled "Toffee" while the Banana fades out and develops a mite pattern. Obviously snakes are adults for a heck of allot longer than they are babies so we’re thrilled that the Toffee has such an amazing adult appearance.

As we all know they are very different genetically. The Toffee is recessive but on top of that it is compatible with normal Albinos and produces a cool new morph that’s been coined the Toffino. The Banana is also compatible but unfortunately only with normals, actually let me re-phrase that. Bananas are co-dominant. However there are allot more normals in captivity than there are Albinos and Het Albinos, which is good for those that can’t afford their $50,000(for a male) price tag right now. But I guess that price is justified because the Banana was only imported several years ago, is being bred all around the world and is so rare. Right?

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder so no one can make a claim that one looks better than the other but I think we can all agree that at this age they are almost identical considering I had to clarify what I had posted. Again I am sorry for the confusion and all the best. I have added a couple of photos of this Toffee male for you to check out.

http://i308.photobucket.com/albums/k...back_male2.jpg

http://i308.photobucket.com/albums/k...resizecopy.jpg

http://i308.photobucket.com/albums/k...resizecopy.jpg

Best regards,

Craig Stewart
The Urban Reptile
Tel: 905 264-5557
www.theurbanreptile.com

banna ball pythons are going for 16k in the uk ;) if you can get the cities permitts would save alot of money.....either way stunning toffee :P

Beautiful snake! Seems to be glowing.

So pretty... I can't wait until I can afford to start a Toffee project.

Thanks. How much do Toffees go for in general?

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Originally Posted by The Urban Python

Hey Guys,

I just wanted to clear up some confusion caused by our last post tilted "Our latest addition". The photo within that post and this post is of our male Toffee holdback that we are adding into our breeding group not a Banana. It still amazes us how similar these two morphs look as babies. In fact I recall two years ago at Tinley Park Pete Kahl displayed a baby Candy and baby Banana together and most couldn't tell them apart. I would imagine someone like Brock Wagner who's produced tons of Banana's would be able to identify the slight nuances between the two morphs. However as they mature they become quite different. The Toffee develops and holds opulent hues as an adult, which you can see in Paul Angelides previous post titled "Toffee" while the Banana fades out and develops a mite pattern. Obviously snakes are adults for a heck of allot longer than they are babies so we’re thrilled that the Toffee has such an amazing adult appearance.

As we all know they are very different genetically. The Toffee is recessive but on top of that it is compatible with normal Albinos and produces a cool new morph that’s been coined the Toffino. The Banana is also compatible but unfortunately only with normals, actually let me re-phrase that. Bananas are co-dominant. However there are allot more normals in captivity than there are Albinos and Het Albinos, which is good for those that can’t afford their $50,000(for a male) price tag right now. But I guess that price is justified because the Banana was only imported several years ago, is being bred all around the world and is so rare. Right?

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder so no one can make a claim that one looks better than the other but I think we can all agree that at this age they are almost identical considering I had to clarify what I had posted. Again I am sorry for the confusion and all the best. I have added a couple of photos of this Toffee male for you to check out.

http/i308.photobucket.com/albums/kk351/Craig_Stewart/banana_hold-back_male2.jpg

http/i308.photobucket.com/albums/kk351/Craig_Stewart/banana_male_holdback3_resizecopy.jpg

http/i308.photobucket.com/albums/kk351/Craig_Stewart/banana_male_holdback_resizecopy.jpg

Best regards,

Craig Stewart
The Urban Reptile
Tel: 905 264-5557
www.theurbanreptile.com

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Why did you name the images as a Banana male holdback? :confused:

Something funny is going on here

This will not have a good outcome :colbert:

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Originally Posted by Serpents_Den

Why did you name the images as a Banana male holdback? :confused:

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Just another attempt to mislead people....very petty.

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Originally Posted by Dave Green

Just another attempt to mislead people....very petty.

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I was reading another forum and Craig sure did lose any credibility he may have had...